Robkat Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Where are all the Braveheart cyber Nats on here? They've all suddenly gone quiet now the SNP have shown their true colours. The SNP have fallen into the trap of intervening in a purely English vote at the first opportunity. Now the Tories have a rod to beat them with every time EVEL is discussed. I did not read much about the English protesting that their MP's voted against the Scotland Act when it went thro parliament. It works both ways, or do the people south of the border want their cake and eat it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think the Snp walked into a tory trap going against Scottish law will come back to bite them imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Sorry but I never learned to speak goose. You are right on some issues. But it my belief that that a quick death by a bullet is the best way to go. That's if you can say such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Is this just a political game? Use it to shaft the snp (not a bad thing) and to appease tory voters who want a change but with no intention of amending the act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Is this just a political game? Use it to shaft the snp (not a bad thing) and to appease tory voters who want a change but with no intention of amending the act. Probably, time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 But it my belief that that a quick death by a bullet is the best way to go. That's if you can say such a thing. But does not the current act and the proposed ammendments clearly stipulate that hounds may only be used to flush and that the fox must be shot. I suggest you read the act before making unfactual statements. Hounds may only flush, not hunt. Foxes must be shot, not killed by hounds. What prey is the difference between someone walking a fox out of cover to waiting guns or a few dogs doing the same thing ?. Whichever way the fox is flushed it's killed with gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 There is all this talk about foxes being 'ripped to peices' etc But do thoose against this bill actualy know wot the amendment is? Foxes MUST be driven to standing guns so no different to a fox drive, dunno if any of u have shot with gun packs (can be very very effective and only way to control foxes in some forested/upland) but that is effectively wot they are proposing. So foxes would be shot as they flushed. Should there be a law where only 2 dogs are allowed to be used to flush pheasants on a driven day? No different in my opinion. And infact propably a lot more humane than a driven shoot or even decoying as any fox injured by guns will have a pack of hounds on it very quickly to PTS it, now it may be ripped to pieces but i think that is preferable than the slow lingering death or catching gangerene.. Everyone who shoots is generally a hypocrite to some degree if they shoot 1 thing over an other BUT anyone who tries to take the moral high ground and uses a shotgun is on very dodgy ground, most guns will shoot 3+-1 kill ratio so for every thing in the freezer 2 have escaped. Do u really believe theyall escaped withut a pellet, with a hunt the fox either gets away clean or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The tired old line of "it's toffs " carries no water - miners hunts, hill farmers hunts etc. Funny how it's now a waste of parliamentary time where the countless hours forming the ban were not. I'm going to e mail Brian May and ask his stance on Halal slaughter. May ask him what his views are on feeding cats food made from dead animals too, something many cat loving antis never consider. As for the little witch from north of the border ? history won't remember her or her ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 digger - well said that man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) i hear the votes been cancelled as the government were going to lose it http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fox-hunting-ban-government-forced-6062870 Edited July 14, 2015 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The Independent gives the win to the SNP. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/first-blood-to-nicola-sturgeon-as-she-outfoxes-david-cameron-on-hunting-10389064.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Where do you stand on ratting with terriers? 3 I am neither tory or labour. I have little time for animal welfare brigade, do not read either of the publications that you mentioned. I support and respect the beliefs of others. But is it acceptable in today's society to allow this method of animal destruction to occur. We should respect our quarry by ensuring their death is fast and as painfree as possible. I'm sure that an animal being torn to pieces might just feel a little pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 That Independent reporter obviously can't look outside the box.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 That Independent reporter obviously can't look outside the box.... Very true I think the SNP may just have walked into a well set ambush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11739935/The-SNP-is-good-at-starting-fights-but-will-lose-this-one.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11739935/The-SNP-is-good-at-starting-fights-but-will-lose-this-one.html Very good article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The SNP are a bunch of halfwits, drunk on power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The SNP are a bunch of halfwits, drunk on power. but they did stick it to dave theres no doubting that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I doubt they did. Flushed out the two-faced hypocrites easily enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I doubt they did. Flushed out the two-faced hypocrites easily enough. if anyone could spot a two-faced hypocrite it would have to be dave it takes one to know one he could flush em out with his water cannon, oh wait he's not allowed that toy yet is he Edited July 16, 2015 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I don't doubt that he has two faces - just a whole lot smarter than Sturgeon and her cronies. Not that says much for any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I don't doubt that he has two faces - just a whole lot smarter than Sturgeon and her cronies. Not that says much for any of them. we are still talking about cameron right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 we are still talking about cameron right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I have seen smarter dogs than Sturgeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I have seen smarter dogs than Sturgeon. we've all seen smarter dogs than dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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