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Does it matter where the money comes from? It's nothing to do with us whether it's private or public finances as it won't cost us anything, and as it will most likely make money after 5-10 years, it won't earn us anything either.

Oh but it is,

 

In 2014 the taxpayers of Greece received from the European Union 411 euros per head over what they contributed. Since its accession to the EU the country has received from the European Union EUR 109258 million over what it has contributed

 

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Quite true, but they don't get so much of a rebate as a grant, they take more out than they put in. If they didn't we wouldn't have to pay so much, hence we ARE paying for it.

 

That's my reasoning anyway, but I'm biased, I hate the eu with a passion.

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Bit of rivalry with the neighbour. Macedonia who have recently completed a huge statue in Skopje of a warrior on the horse (Alexander the Great) rumoured to have cost $50m. Much to the annoyance of the Greeks who claim Alexander as their own and who are already in dispute with the country over the use of the name 'Macedonia'.

I cant help but admire the Greek character to ignore difficulties and get on with enjoying life. :good:

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Does it matter where the money comes from? It's nothing to do with us whether it's private or public finances as it won't cost us anything, and as it will most likely make money after 5-10 years, it won't earn us anything either.

If my taxes pay to bale the out and they fix fixer uppers up then I think it matters

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Bit of rivalry with the neighbour. Macedonia who have recently completed a huge statue in Skopje of a warrior on the horse (Alexander the Great) rumoured to have cost $50m. Much to the annoyance of the Greeks who claim Alexander as their own and who are already in dispute with the country over the use of the name 'Macedonia'.

I cant help but admire the Greek character to ignore difficulties and get on with enjoying life. :good:

 

You need to add "With other peoples money"!

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If my taxes pay to bale the out and they fix fixer uppers up then I think it matters

As far as I'm aware the UK isn't part of the bailout as it came from the ECB. Either way, as we don't know who wants to build it or how they will finance it, we can't automatically blame the EU.

 

Even if a proportion of the cost comes by way of an EU grant, development fund or direct from the Greek government then that is a decision for the Greeks. If they want to invest in a tourist attraction (that will see a financial return) rather than pay bin men then that's up to them as they are, after all, a sovereign state.

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I was propositioned by a prostitute at Rhodes harbour entrance where they plan to build this statue. I think that it would be a hideous monstrosity and all out of scale with the local buildings. It is a fair distance from one side to the other of the harbour jetties and to span them the colosus would have to be like a sky scraper. And what would they do with the statues of the two deer that are on the harbour jetties now. They mean a lot to the island as a symbol of the peoples identity. The Italians took them down in the war and replaced them with the bundle of sticks. I can see a lot of protesting over this proposal. The wife wasn't best pleased by the proposal that I got there. Nice place Rhodes town.

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A very good friend of mine was a Greek Doctor, he lived all his working life here but returned to Greece several times a year to visit his 'home' as he still called it. I can remember very well him saying that when Greece joined the EU it was as though money was just falling from the sky in bucketfuls.

I have often remembered what he said, especially in the light of recent events in Greece although my friend never lived to see them. He described poor farmers in his village suddenly getting very rich claiming agricultural subsidies for non existant crops supposedly grown on barren rocky hillsides. Roads built to nowhere with half the funding being syphoned off and materials diverted to build big houses fror local officials.

 

Its no way to run a country, its no way to run the EU and its why I will be voting to leave when we get the referendum. The EU could work, it should work but the simple fact is,it doesn't. Its gone too far now to ever pull things back. That, frankly, suprises me; both France and Germany are well disciplined countries. I would have thought they would have been kicking *** from day one, laying down the law with a big stick and wearing big boots.

 

In truth, nothing could be further from what really happened. You can't run anything the way the EU was run. That I think will be its obituary

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