12gauge82 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I've recently had a move to Scotland and have so far yet to get out and about looking for new permissions, most of my shooting is now shotguns anyway (clays for now) and I'm having serious consideration to selling my airgun as I'm not sure when or if I'm going to continue having need for one, it does however seem a shame as at the moment its sat in the cabinet and if I sell it I may decide I want another one in future. So I was just wondering what the rest of the Scots are doing when the airgun liscensing law comes into effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I had a SACS mag come the other week which had a good section on the new laws in Scotland and what you need to do, including selling an air riffle and travelling to Scotland. Its worth seeing if you can track down a copy of this mag, unfortunately my copy has already been recycled by mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Thanks for that, I'll definitely keep my eyes open for a copy. Im still considering weather to sell or apply for a liscence and Just wondered whether most people will be getting a liscence or selling up, I think it's a sad day for shooting and a real blow to the grass routes of our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I thought if you had a shotgun license you did not need an airgun license. I may be wrong though, speak to the police and find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I was told by my FLO that was only if you have a section 1 but to be honest it doesn't sound like they have been kept up to date either. Well done SNP another well thought out piece of firearms legislation, not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) I was told by my FLO that was only if you have a section 1 but to be honest it doesn't sound like they have been kept up to date either. Well done SNP another well thought out piece of firearms legislation, not. its a shame but lets be honest about this,,, "THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE VOTED THEM IN" so I know this might be a bit harsh but they do not get my sympathy,,, the majority don't want to be a part of the UK yet they want to interfere in ENGLISH and UK laws,, what makes me laugh even more is ,,,, they( the scots ) want their own country and not be part of the UK or UNITED KINGDOM but they want to keep the pound (sterling ) :lol: what an idiot , a total power hungry little witch who is a crankie and THE SCOTS VOTED HER IN :lol: it reminds me of a connie francis song " who,s sorry now " just my opinion mind , but more fool you for moving to scotland Edited January 9, 2016 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 its a shame but lets be honest about this,,, "THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE VOTED THEM IN" so I know this might be a bit harsh but they do not get my sympathy,,, the majority don't want to be a part of the UK yet they want to interfere in ENGLISH and UK laws,, what makes me laugh even more is ,,,, they( the scots ) want their own country and not be part of the UK or UNITED KINGDOM but they want to keep the pound (sterling ) :lol: what an idiot , a total power hungry little witch who is a crankie and THE SCOTS VOTED HER IN :lol: it reminds me of a connie francis song " who,s sorry now " just my opinion mind , but more fool you for moving to scotland Cheer's evo, I think hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger123 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 They don't want to be part of the U.K but desperately want to be part of Europe. MAD!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Cheer's evo, I think hahaha I must say bud,,, best wishes on your move and I really do hope all things are blessed and go well for you,,BUT,, it wont be long before you come back home,,, when you do let me know and I,ll buy you a pint :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 its a shame but lets be honest about this,,, "THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE VOTED THEM IN" so I know this might be a bit harsh but they do not get my sympathy,,, the majority don't want to be a part of the UK yet they want to interfere in ENGLISH and UK laws,, what makes me laugh even more is ,,,, they( the scots ) want their own country and not be part of the UK or UNITED KINGDOM but they want to keep the pound (sterling ) :lol: what an idiot , a total power hungry little witch who is a crankie and THE SCOTS VOTED HER IN :lol: it reminds me of a connie francis song " who,s sorry now " just my opinion mind , but more fool you for moving to scotland Let's not be too condemning of all Scots. My understanding at the time of the vote of an issue deliberately avoided by Salmond is the question of the Islanders. The Orkneys, Shetlands and Hebrides did not want to be part of an Independant Scotland and implied UDI or, perhaps, stay with what remained of the UK. And the oils and has fields are closer to their territorial waters than they are to Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Three wolves and one lamb voting on what to have for lunch is democracy In politics there are more seats were mainly wolves live If you have a licence for other guns or you have shooting for Airgun then keep it if you don't then you dont actually have use of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Three wolves and one lamb voting on what to have for lunch is democracy In politics there are more seats were mainly wolves live If you have a licence for other guns or you have shooting for Airgun then keep it if you don't then you dont actually have use of it Couldn't agree more Kent, my issue is I've literally just moved and at this very moment I have no use of it however given a month or two that would very likely change however I guess I'm just considering giving airguns up altogether, just dont know if I can be bothered with all the licencing and just focus on shotgun and rifle shooting from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Couldn't agree more Kent, my issue is I've literally just moved and at this very moment I have no use of it however given a month or two that would very likely change however I guess I'm just considering giving airguns up altogether, just dont know if I can be bothered with all the licencing and just focus on shotgun and rifle shooting from now on. If you have shooting and Licencing for rifle and shotgun I suggest the air rifle only fills s niche and it's a darn site easier to get shooting with shotgun and fac anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 They don't want to be part of the U.K but desperately want to be part of Europe. MAD!!! You are wrong there. The SNP want out of the UK and into the Eu lunatic madhouse. Dont mix up SNP with Scots, no one in my crcle of shooting and fishing friends has a kind word for SNP> Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I've only recently got myself an air rifle and I'm going to put it on my FAC if the police will let me as the variation has been in for four months now and no sign of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 You have 12g shotguns but they want you to apply for another ticket for a sub 12ft air rifle that's just bonkers. Should be auto entitled with your sgc or fac. Are they putting restrictions on pellets? Rip Scotland with these loonys in power, and with Westminster handing more and more power over they are surly doomed. Shame such a nice country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 IIRC there are no restrictions on buying pellets so the numpties will be able to continue use their non licensed airguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 You have 12g shotguns but they want you to apply for another ticket for a sub 12ft air rifle that's just bonkers. Should be auto entitled with your sgc or fac. Are they putting restrictions on pellets? Rip Scotland with these loonys in power, and with Westminster handing more and more power over they are surly doomed. Shame such a nice country. I regularly shoot rifles but do not have a fac and currently hold a SGC, the feo seemed to think a fac will cover airguns but not a SGC although he admitted he didn't know either, it really is a mad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1955 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 its a shame but lets be honest about this,,, "THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE VOTED THEM IN" so I know this might be a bit harsh but they do not get my sympathy,,, the majority don't want to be a part of the UK yet they want to interfere in ENGLISH and UK laws,, what makes me laugh even more is ,,,, they( the scots ) want their own country and not be part of the UK or UNITED KINGDOM but they want to keep the pound (sterling ) :lol: what an idiot , a total power hungry little witch who is a crankie and THE SCOTS VOTED HER IN :lol: it reminds me of a connie francis song " who,s sorry now " just my opinion mind , but more fool you for moving to scotland First of all lets get things straight we the majority of scots do not want our own country, we want to remain part of the UK as was made clear in the referendum. Secondly we the majority do not think its right that SNP members of parliament have the right to interfere in English laws. We the majority want to remain part of the UK and as part of the UK we have the right to use the currency of the UK. I suggest you get your facts right before you go spouting a load of nonsense on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 First of all lets get things straight we the majority of scots do not want our own country, we want to remain part of the UK as was made clear in the referendum. Secondly we the majority do not think its right that SNP members of parliament have the right to interfere in English laws. We the majority want to remain part of the UK and as part of the UK we have the right to use the currency of the UK. I suggest you get your facts right before you go spouting a load of nonsense on here. Evos from that wonderful place the wirral As far as airgun licensing goes, if it needs to go on the ticket then thats were it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanchief Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 As it stands the new Scotland Police force is so not set up it is frightening, they have yet to centralise things to their new site, at present licensing is not up to date and guns on databases and cert applications not stacking up. I do not think that the new SNP government have the money to set new things in motion or have any idea how to go about things properly or how it can be managed and by whom. Where abouts are you located 12 gauge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 As it stands the new Scotland Police force is so not set up it is frightening, they have yet to centralise things to their new site, at present licensing is not up to date and guns on databases and cert applications not stacking up. I do not think that the new SNP government have the money to set new things in motion or have any idea how to go about things properly or how it can be managed and by whom. Where abouts are you located 12 gauge ? Ayrshire, lovely part of the world it is to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 First of all lets get things straight we the majority of scots do not want our own country, we want to remain part of the UK as was made clear in the referendum. Secondly we the majority do not think its right that SNP members of parliament have the right to interfere in English laws. We the majority want to remain part of the UK and as part of the UK we have the right to use the currency of the UK. I suggest you get your facts right before you go spouting a load of nonsense on here. james please quote what I said that is wrong,, you the majority as you call it voted these idiots in , so sorry but as connie said " who,s sorry now " I was also correct in saying you wanted to split from the uk but keep sterling , that was also correct , sorry bud but my facts are right,, please don't be bitter and I really cant be bothered arguing but enjoy your air rifles whilst you can cos I know I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It all seems daft. Could I have an air gun in my car in Carlisle, legally, and ten minutes later ,be in breach of the Law in Scotland ? (Gun runner ) Or, would I have to be a Scottish resident to require a licence? Visitors permit? All this Independence stuff is just 'tribal' nonsense , and belongs in the 16th century. How could we ever get on with life forms from other parts of space(if they exist) if we continually fight over borders and beliefs . There's one race, its called 'mankind', lets get on with each other, and move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Could I have an air gun in my car in Carlisle, legally, and ten minutes later ,be in breach of the Law in Scotland ? YES. SAME AS THE DIFFERENT DRINK DRIVING LIMITS. Or, would I have to be a Scottish resident to require a licence? NO Visitors permit? YES More muscle flexing from the Forth Reich.... Remember, everything Hitler did was legal under German law...& he was democratically elected. The only difference between him & fish face is one testicle & some moustache bleach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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