BRNDL Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hello all, I am in the market for a multi fuel wood burner around the 8 KW mark. Having read a little on the internet I am still wondering what burners are the best for value for money. I need a 6m flue too. Looking to spend around the £1k mark for burner and flue if possible, but a little more if needed. Thanks in advance, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 We've got an Aarow stove. Top quality. I've just replaced the firebricks, which took me all of 5 minutes. In our old house we had a Morso. Again, very high quality. Those 2 aren't the cheapest by any means. But they are really built to last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hard to say really, so long as you stay away from steel and only get cast iron then you'll probably be fine. My 9 kW stove (Yeoman Devon) is phenomenal; it starts very easily, it's like a jet engine with the vents open and can get incredibly hot if needed but can tick away at 120 degrees for hours. I've seen new 'contemporary' stoves that take an age to light and get up to temperature, and when they do it only seems to be background heat so perhaps go for a tried and tested design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Its worth looking at one that can be back fed with air for which you will need an outside wall or floor cavity. Imagine the amount of air going up the chimney when its running (like a jet engine) this is the amount air is replaced by air from outside into the room through a vent. If you link directly to the outside (for air) then this cold air circuit is removed. Whilst the stove willl burn with the same level of efficiency removing the need to draw air from the room significantly increases the warmth to the room allowing less fuel or smaller stove. My 5kw badger morso heats a room at least 50m2 with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 There is nothing wrong with a steel stove, they are all welded together so will not leak fumes that a cast one will. Cast ones are bolted together and sealed. This seal can breakdown and leak. Have a look at "clearview" stoves, they are amazing, no blackened glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Thanks chaps. I haven't heard of taking the air draw from outside, that is a nifty idea. I read up that the quality cast iron stoves hold a good percentage of chrome in them to help deal with the expansion and contraction of the metal. Has anyone heard of this? Thanks Also- some more recommended brands would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 There is nothing wrong with a steel stove, they are all welded together so will not leak fumes that a cast one will. Cast ones are bolted together and sealed. This seal can breakdown and leak. Have a look at "clearview" stoves, they are amazing, no blackened glass.Steel tend to heat up quickly but also cool down quickly so don't hold an even temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 The steel Clearview stoves I've had have been brilliant. I can't recommend them high enough. Better than all the cast ones we've taken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I have a woodwarm Woodburner If I remember correctly it is called a Branston.It is a steel unit and was not cheap over a thousand just for the fire.It works fantastically in fact my central heating is never used the whole house is kept very warm by the fire.I had a cast fire before and it cracked after four years and had to be scrapped.I took advice from a chap who has been selling/installing wood burners for many years now and he advised against cast although he stocks both.The woodwarm fires have the airflow system which means the glass does not black up.It is so easy to light.My advice would be do not buy cheap buy right and buy only once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Everyone loves there own stove so the replies you will get will be biased. I have an Aarrow Eco burn 11 in my bungalow and its been great for heating the place but I'm sure other burners would do just as good a job. My stove alone was £1000 so not the cheapest on the market but seems good quality in the 4 years I've had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I wish people would stop installing these stoves, I'm gonna run out of wood if everyone has them. The increase in log loads has gone from £45 to over £80,that's of course if you buying it. 8kw that's going to warm you up, have you thought of one with a boiler for heating you water and rads ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 There is nothing wrong with a steel stove, they are all welded together so will not leak fumes that a cast one will. Cast ones are bolted together and sealed. This seal can breakdown and leak. Have a look at "clearview" stoves, they are amazing, no blackened glass. As this chap says clear view burn hot ( convert fuel to heat very well ) And has been said if you can get air intake all the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Presumably if you get the external air feed, the stove will no longer draw air from within the house, so you might have mould or damp problems caused by the lack of air movement? Just a thought... Is it possible to get an external air feed you can open into the house instead if you want to draw air from inside for a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I wish people would stop installing these stoves, I'm gonna run out of wood if everyone has them. The increase in log loads has gone from £45 to over £80,that's of course if you buying it. I know, my two wood stoves are my main source of heat. When the oil price went through the roof a couple of years ago there was a rush to get them and wood suppliers were selling loads of wet, half-rotten logs for £80! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Everyone loves there own stove so the replies you will get will be biased. I have an Aarrow Eco burn 11 in my bungalow and its been great for heating the place but I'm sure other burners would do just as good a job. My stove alone was £1000 so not the cheapest on the market but seems good quality in the 4 years I've had it. Which suggests most of them are pretty good. Griddle on mine could be better. Presumably if you get the external air feed, the stove will no longer draw air from within the house, so you might have mould or damp problems caused by the lack of air movement? Just a thought... Is it possible to get an external air feed you can open into the house instead if you want to draw air from inside for a change? Windows work quite well. Fire has a front vent which draws from the room if you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Over a certain Kw you will need a air brick installed, to maintain a minimal air flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Over a certain Kw you will need a air brick installed, to maintain a minimal air flow. You don't just 'need' an air brick, it is required by regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 You don't just 'need' an air brick, it is required by regulations. Not if you draw air directly to the fire from outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I did say WILL NEED. Think this is only required by regs if it's over a certain Kw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 You will get a fire and flue nd bite for £600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Not if you draw air directly to the fire from outside. Through an air brick? Think this is only required by regs if it's over a certain Kw. That's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 oowee, on 12 Jan 2016 - 6:48 PM, said: Not if you draw air directly to the fire from outside. Through an air brick? Not with an air brick. If you buy a fire that allows for an external ducted air supply it will not need an air brick in the house. Its more efficient in use and uses less fuel for a given heat output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangBangNik Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I did say WILL NEED. Think this is only required by regs if it's over a certain Kw. Over 5kw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 oowee, on 12 Jan 2016 - 6:48 PM, said: Not with an air brick. If you buy a fire that allows for an external ************** it will not need an air brick in the house. Its more efficient in use and uses less fuel for a given heat output. How do you keep the vermin out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 How do you keep the vermin out? By lighting the fire!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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