kody Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Although there were good friends and sparred together and chuck described Bruce as being a formidable fighter Who would have been the best in a real fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 More PW homoerotica. Bruce looks better topless. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 More PW homoerotica. Bruce looks better topless. Hope that helps. The swaz would have had them both, have you guys not seen roadhouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 The swaz would have had them both, have you guys not seen roadhouse? Mm yes kinder garden scraps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabhui Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bruce hands down. During a sparring match between them both it was reported that Bruce played with Chuck and that Chuck was left "red faced". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bruce hands down. During a sparring match between them both it was reported that Bruce played with Chuck and that Chuck was left "red faced". Beat that for camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 But can either of them punch a hole in a door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I've watched Bruce in a demo long beach karate demo he was blinding fast very strong for his build I would put my money on the dragon anytime But can either of them punch a hole in a door I would not want to be that door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 It's a tough question - the current (MMA) trend shows you've got to get the other fella on the floor and get wrestling and grappling (ooeerr). On that basis it's got to be chuck - he was both taller and heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I wouldn't want it to be my back door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 But can either of them punch a hole in a door That is the question. My money would be on Burnley Dave to whip the pair - at the same time - with doors to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 'Doors.....don't hit back.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 It's a tough question - the current (MMA) trend shows you've got to get the other fella on the floor and get wrestling and grappling (ooeerr). On that basis it's got to be chuck - he was both taller and heavier.Does that not have a lot to do with the current prominence of Brazilian Jujitsu in MMA? And also the way the rules are written? Jkd takes a more "whatever works"approach, which isn't really suitable for competition, so it depends on your frame of reference. I suspect that, as ever, it would come down to the individual, not the art. Lee beating Norris, probably, but depending on who has a good day and who has a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 It's a tough question - the current (MMA) trend shows you've got to get the other fella on the floor and get wrestling and grappling (ooeerr). On that basis it's got to be chuck - he was both taller and heavier. Chuck was taller and heavier however he had no experience in fighting other than point karate competitions and a little judo in the army. Bruce on the other hand had some boxing experience and alongside his striking martials arts he had also studied some grappling arts. Despite the size difference it`s advantage Bruce imo. If you don`t agree then go and find some footage of Royce Gracie in UFC 1 where despite his size (he was the smallest of the Gracie brothers) he destroyed everyone put in front of him with superior grappling. Being taller and heavier is great but on the ground skill counts and Bruce would seem to have the edge. But put either of them in the ring with George St Pierre in his prime and they`d be destroyed. Actually the same would hold true for any number of UFC fighters. I couldn`t see either of them beating Diaz either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Does that not have a lot to do with the current prominence of Brazilian Jujitsu in MMA? And also the way the rules are written? Jkd takes a more "whatever works"approach, which isn't really suitable for competition, so it depends on your frame of reference. I suspect that, as ever, it would come down to the individual, not the art. Lee beating Norris, probably, but depending on who has a good day and who has a bad day. Arguably BJJ is not as prominent as it was in the early days of the UFC. With fighters realising they have to train at wrestling and BJJ to seriously compete some of it`s early effectiveness has diminished. It still wins fights of course but few fighters can rely on it alone to win fights. There are exceptions of course. Demian Maia leaps to mind. He`s so good that he makes most skilled black belts look ordinary. So when a fighter who is primarily a striker ends up on the ground with him they`re likely to find themselves in a world of pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Define "real fight" are we talking in a ring or the tarmac arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bruce no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bruce no question. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Did anyone see that punch he threw at O'Hara where they cross hands in enter the dragon man what speed and power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Chuck 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bruce was born with it, chuck learnt it. Bruce would play with him like a cat with a mouse. His speed and the power was something that you could not defend against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabhui Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 The thing is that many of the top martial artists on the circuit back in the day were taking private lessons from Bruce including Chuck Norris, Louis Delgado, Mike Stone and Joe Lewis. Then there's Bruce's regular students who were already formidable fighters when they started training under him. People like Dan Lee & Leo Fong who were both Golden Glove Boxing Champions, Ed Hart who was a professional boxer, Judo and Air Force Boxing champion Jesse Glover, Hayward Nishioka who was a Pan American Judo gold medalist. All of them give credit to Bruce as being the real deal and he must have had something to offer for them to even give him the time of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 It was the books of another Bruce, Bruce Tegner way back in the early 1970's which first stirred a longing in me and when I first saw the movies of Bruce Lee I was admittedly blown away. Back then when I was learning it was Benny the Jet and Bill 'Superfoot' Wallace who were the blokes doing it in the ring, but Bruce Lee grew up a street fighter. Back then over here the hard cases were the likes of Terry O'Neil and to a lesser degree Ticky Donovan and some of the top Kyukushinkai fighters. As an aside I once fought Eugene 'The Cat' Codrington; runner up in the 1981 (?) world championships and who once beat Steve Babbs, who in turn won at least one world championship title I think. He thrashed me of course but I got in one good one ( fast feet ) which caught him unawares. I paid for it of course. Fastest fighter I ever saw was 7th Dan Toru Takamizawa. No more than about five feet tall he was a power pack of unbelievable reactions and once demonstrated the 5" punch on me while I held a chair seat over my stomach...thankfully. Bruce would do Chuck I reckon and especially so on the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshiretaxidermy Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 It's great how everyone is on first name terms with them both, what a friendly bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Wonder how he would do against a lightweight boxer A boxer only knows how to punch a martial artist can do a lot more In an interview with sugar ray Leonard he said and I quote he admired Bruce's hand speed and learnt a lot from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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