spinach Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 LG, good luck for Monday, as many have said put me down for £20. John. Does your son understand how much support he has from people on here. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I have told him! He seemed a little perplexed! He has little concept of friendship etc! But he grasps the fact people have offered to help! But I feel its important for him to make his own way on life! As I have done! I don't want him thinking there will be a constant safety net to catch him! This has been one of those lessons that hurt like hell, but as its happened, it will help him to understand that he isn't invincible! And he needs to take care of all his actions! That's why I would like to get the extra hours at work! If I can get a mortgage sorted! I can at least provide him with the security of a roof over his head should anything happen to me! Roll on May! Just hope the bank manager will be ok! I am managing the rent as is! So with extra hours I should think a mortgage should be well within my reach! Even if I have to take a second job working the odd day off! We do OK and cant grumble really! Like I say, there are do many people out there who have nothing! We at least have the luxury of a warm bed and food! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftycarper Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I had same problem a week or so ago, someone tried to get £600 from my bank via PayPal, bank said it was for photography equipment and refused to pay and stopped my card. Took 2 days to get through to paypal, they said they wasn't at fault and that someone had scammed my card in a shop and then opened another eBay account, load of ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKong Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I just received a very well put together phishing email from "paypal@e.paypal.co.uk" (note the extra 'e' in the address) saying that someone had tried to reset my password and click here to log if it wasn't me. There seems to have been a step-change in the level of paypal phishing recently. Be aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Hey LG What did the bank/PayPal sort out in the end? Any joy or they giving you the runaround? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Think its going to be the runaround from paypoop! Need to ring them again as they closed the case, and said he had to contact the seller? He never bought anything? Try and ring tomorrow evening and see if I can sort it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Good luck I found , repeating every email, every day irritated them to act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I just received a very well put together phishing email from "paypal@e.paypal.co.uk" (note the extra 'e' in the address) saying that someone had tried to reset my password and click here to log if it wasn't me. There seems to have been a step-change in the level of paypal phishing recently. Be aware. This same lot 'e.paypal' have just emailed me to ask me to respond to join a competition to win £1000. Lot of phishing going on at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 For those who can... Download the Paypal app, then all your notifications come through that and not email, then ignor all emails Plus every payment comes up as a notification so if an unauthorised payment is made you will know about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKong Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 This same lot 'e.paypal' have just emailed me to ask me to respond to join a competition to win £1000. Lot of phishing going on at the moment. For what it's worth, I forwarded mine to spoof@paypal.com who use it to crack down on phishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well, both PayPal AND the bank are washing their hands! Apparently the IP for the transactions match Chris' they claim someone has used his PC physically or remotely and they are not responsible for it. All I can do now is try the police 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Mate, I feel SO sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Well, both PayPal AND the bank are washing their hands! Apparently the IP for the transactions match Chris' they claim someone has used his PC physically or remotely and they are not responsible for it. All I can do now is try the police 😩Just to clarify. His paypal account has been used to send money to an old friend and another email address. PayPal has said that your IP was used. Is that correct? Thus seems odd. Is there any chance your son sent the money? This is looking like a bullying/blackmail situation potentially as opposed to scam. Edited April 19, 2016 by BrowningB525 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKong Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Do you have logging enabled on your home router? If you have the logs from when the transaction was made you should be able to check the device that made the transaction and how it was connected i.e. wifi or ethernet. Seems unlikely that someone was sat outside your house breaking your wifi. If your son didn't send the money then his computer is compromised. A look at the firewall log would tell you how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think someone who knows about all things computer and scamming should sort this by pm, the ins and outs of hacking shouldn't be broadcast on a public forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Just to clarify. His paypal account has been used to send money to an old friend and another email address. PayPal has said that your IP was used. Is that correct? Thus seems odd. Is there any chance your son sent the money? This is looking like a bullying/blackmail situation potentially as opposed to scam. Thats pretty much what they are saying!The IP that was used for the transactions is the same as Chris' IP address! But there is nobody to physically access his account as there is only Chris and Myself live here and nobody is ever here! I Have CCTV and sure enough nobody was here that day! Its looking like someone has gained remote access of his PC and used the remote link to carry out the transfers! He leaves his PC on all the time, Now his old school chum is a bit of a bandit and has had run ins with the police in the past for theft, fraud etc but I never thought he would stoop this low (if it IS him) but because the IP matches, Paypal have said they are NOT responsible and wash their hands of it! The banks fraud team have taken the same stance! Now all we can do it contact the police! But in all reality, the chances of getting the money back are now 0. Moving forward I have told chris to closel his Paypal account, and I am going to have to intervene and become a middle man in his transactions to prevent any future issues! He had an appointment at the cardiologists today, I felt so bad with his sat there with his hands and face, and hope to god people dont think it's Me beating the **** out of him! If I get this time I needed at work, and sooner rather than later! I may be able to get enough squirreled away before October and get him the printer for his Birthday as a Surprise! In the mean time I will make small deposits into his account and will say it's pocket money! Slowly he will see it build up again and calm him down! But the Birthday present will make his day! I think this shall by my annus horribilis, so will focus on trying to just get this **** out of the way and move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Please let us lot chip in for 3D printer for Chris as you said he'll love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Thats pretty much what they are saying!The IP that was used for the transactions is the same as Chris' IP address! But there is nobody to physically access his account as there is only Chris and Myself live here and nobody is ever here! I Have CCTV and sure enough nobody was here that day! Its looking like someone has gained remote access of his PC and used the remote link to carry out the transfers! He leaves his PC on all the time, Now his old school chum is a bit of a bandit and has had run ins with the police in the past for theft, fraud etc but I never thought he would stoop this low (if it IS him) but because the IP matches, Paypal have said they are NOT responsible and wash their hands of it! The banks fraud team have taken the same stance! Now all we can do it contact the police! But in all reality, the chances of getting the money back are now 0. Moving forward I have told chris to closel his Paypal account, and I am going to have to intervene and become a middle man in his transactions to prevent any future issues! He had an appointment at the cardiologists today, I felt so bad with his sat there with his hands and face, and hope to god people dont think it's Me beating the **** out of him! If I get this time I needed at work, and sooner rather than later! I may be able to get enough squirreled away before October and get him the printer for his Birthday as a Surprise! In the mean time I will make small deposits into his account and will say it's pocket money! Slowly he will see it build up again and calm him down! But the Birthday present will make his day! I think this shall by my annus horribilis, so will focus on trying to just get this **** out of the way and move on! Are you 100% sure that he hasn't been coerced into sending the money? Did they take the exact amount he has? Remote control of computers is not something all that common and the lad in question doesn't sound like the sort. I am not being harsh on your son, I am on the spectrum myself (hence probably seeming blunt) so understand better than most. In the meantime, get him to this place https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/MakerSpace_%28Newcastle,_UK%29 to play with a 3d printer and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) This has been quite a traumatic read with the way there was initial hope and then none. If you don't mind me saying I think you ought to allow those of us, count me in please, who are able to dip into a pocket for £20 or so. I think your son might dwell on the issue and not move on with his life very quickly. Its small change that will allow you more time to work with your son than work extra hours to replace the fund, Possibly telling him that it got sorted out but be a bit vague about how that got done. Edited April 19, 2016 by Dave-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 This has been quite a traumatic read with the way there was initial hope and then none. If you don't mind me saying I think you ought to allow those of us, count me in please, who are able to dip into a pocket for £20 or so. I think your son is likely to overly dwell on the issue and move on with his life very quickly. Its small change that will allow you more time to work with your son than work extra hours to replace the fund, Possibly telling him that it got sorted out but be a bit vague about how that got done. like your style on the last bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 As a ballpark how much is a 3D printer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Please let us lot chip in for 3D printer for Chris as you said he'll love it This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Indeed, which 3D printer - model number please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Can't somebody set up something like a 'Just Giving' account or similar That way those that want/are in a position to, can add to the pot ? Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 If you don't mind me saying I think you ought to allow those of us, count me in please, who are able to dip into a pocket for £20 or so. I think your son might dwell on the issue and not move on with his life very quickly. Its small change that will allow you more time to work with your son than work extra hours to replace the fund, Possibly telling him that it got sorted out but be a bit vague about how that got done. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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