LeadWasp Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 A pal called me the other night to say that he'd had a 'slight problem' with his HMR. Using a certain 17gr ammunition provided by a firm beginning with H he had chambered one round and had a misfire (no report at all). Following a safe ejection he chambered another round, shot it and everything went bang. Basically it seems that the dud round left it's bullet in the throat, the second round pushed that forward, then there was an over pressure that blew the magazine out and broke the fore-end. There is now a bulge in the bull barrel about 10cm forward of the chamber. Lucky guy - he just got a bit of a fright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) He had a misfire and worked the action, found a case without a bullet and loaded and fired another round? He is indeed lucky. Edited May 5, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I watched my mate try and do the same with his sako quad. I heard the noise and was shouting in the end as he kept trying to load it. Luckily he got the hint when I covered my face . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Night time lamping rabbits he may not have noticed the empty bullet missing specially as it was ejected onto the floor. But the difference in sound from a duff round from a good one is very different. So for me it's a matter of caution if something doesn't sound as it should.. Lost all confidence in mine. Bring on the 17 remington getting impatient now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 It's about time the ammunition supplier shorted this out, it's so common now people are taking it for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozalid Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) I've only used Hornady V-Max 17 grain since getting a .17 and this has not happened to me once, just lucky I guess... I'll be extra careful now though Edited May 5, 2016 by ozalid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted May 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) It was dark and yes he was out rabbiting, and of course your not going to try to catch as misfired cartridge. There was no report from the cartridge at all. He's not wet behind the ears by any means. I posted it more to show another risk with this ammunition, poor head space on top of misfires. Edited May 5, 2016 by LeadWasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 How many more reports of this are we going to read before someone gets seriously injured? Surely this ammo needs taking off the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) It was dark and yes he was out rabbiting, and of course your not going to try to catch as misfired cartridge. There was no report from the cartridge at all. He's not wet behind the ears by any means. I posted it more to show another risk with this ammunition, poor head space on top of misfires. +1 Edited May 5, 2016 by reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 i was out with a friend when this happened, thank od we notiched the bullet head was missing, after getting it out with a cleaning rod it happened another four times! we stopped using his batch that night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 If you hear a quiet report,from firing.And you chamber an other round ***. Well your friend is a Numpty. Day or night they sound the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I had an odd firing from a PPU in .243 where it did go bang but something was very wrong, I checked and the bullet had left the barrel but failed to connect with the fox just 20 feet away....... one lucky fox. Seems we do need to be ever watchful on these misfires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I check all my HMR ammo before heading out, I've separated no less than 18 rounds with split necks, much easier to spend a few minutes indoors with a coffee than out in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 As i have said before, its a good thing 17s were not made available in semi auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I check all my HMR ammo before heading out, I've separated no less than 18 rounds with split necks, much easier to spend a few minutes indoors with a coffee than out in the dark.And it's made easy using Mel B's ammo wallets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 As i have said before, its a good thing 17s were not made available in semi auto if you had a misfire then i dought that the gun would recycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 if you had a misfire then i dought that the gun would recycle Thinking about it you have a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Exact same thing happened to me.....I know Numpty! Take the rifle and ammo back to your gun shop & tell them to contact Edgar Bros who are the importers of the ammo & they will sort it out for you As said before this is happening far to often & it is just a question of time before someone gets seriously injured from these dodgy rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) You all, by now, know my thoughts on the hmr. 17 Hornet. Everything you wanted from the hmr and more. With that in mind, the hmr is hard to beat price wise for rabbits. Any misfire should be treated with caution, much as with a shotgun, if you pull the trigger and it goes click and you believe a round had been chambered then wait 30 seconds, pointing the rifle in a safe direction, extract round, bolt out and check barrel for obstruction. I would be bold enough to say that that goes with any calibre. Edited May 6, 2016 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I check all my HMR ammo before heading out, I've separated no less than 18 rounds with split necks, much easier to spend a few minutes indoors with a coffee than out in the dark. As a mater of interest do you return these to your supplier as being unfit for purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Should trading standards be informed if the importer will not do anything about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 If you hear a quiet report,from firing.And you chamber an other round ***. Well your friend is a Numpty. Day or night they sound the same. READ WHAT I WROTE - then consider withdrawing that remark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Not being funny, but if this is only happening with one brand and it is reported to the manufacturers and nothing is being done, then it is time to get trading standards involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I love and use my .17 hmr a lot. I did have some hornady ammo (Only one I do use) with split necks. with some caution I did chamber every single one of them and never had the problem yet. just wack it in and and be sensible like someone said before it can happen to any caliber and if it sound od and you dont check it me thinks its your fault. btw when I was in the service I did have some prob with my ak47 in 7.62 and ex russian ammo in Poland we did use was utterly ****. just keep vigilant about every shot you take I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Not being funny, but if this is only happening with one brand and it is reported to the manufacturers and nothing is being done, then it is time to get trading standards involved! CCI actually loads all of the .17 HMR ammunition for the CCI, Federal, Hornady, and Remington brands. So it would seem strange that it's only happening to one brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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