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Just bought this beauty today. It's a Gamo Phil 0.22 PCP air rifle. Comes as a complete package with silencer, bsa 3-9x40 scope, gamo stirrup pump with quick charge adaptor and gun slip.

 

It's basically a BSA as gamo is the sister company to bsa. It has bsa cold forged barrel with 10shot magazine.

Fill pressue is 232bar and you get around 70-80 shots in the optimum pressure. I have just had a little play with it and managed to zero it really easy at 20 yards I need to do it again at 33 yards to what I want but didn't have the space in my garden to do it.

 

At 20yds I can get all 10 shots pretty much through each other and there is no recoil and the silencer is like a whisper

 

I can't recommend it enough all in at £499 for the package.

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This is my 1st PCP from springers and I won't go back for the price and build quality coupled with a lightweight package and it fits perfect. Also you get a years warranty too. I've had a go of a couple but money was an issue and to get all the kit with this was the best package for quality I could find it shoots perfect.

 

Couldn't be happier

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Yes it's 11.5 ft lbs. but much more stopping Power than my springer too. If any one is in the market to getting a new PCP then I highly reccomend the gamo Phox

I saw one last week at a gun shop by me,yes i was quite impressed,i am thinking of going the pcp route myself later on in the year,i fancy the walther rotex it has a good write up and has a good shot count,the are so many budget priced pcp,s to choose from now,keep us posted how u get on with it. :good:

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hello, as happens i looked at the gamo and rotex while i was in a RFD yesterday, i think due to no recoil the lighter the better when you consider adding n/v or scope i have had quite a few PCPs and the one i use now is less than 6llb, just a thought!!!!

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Hi Everyone, my first post. Joined up to share my thoughts on the new gamo phox i bought 3 weeks ago. (and the BSA R10se black which comes next week :good: )

Lots of people out there would love to know what this Gamo £300 rifle offers (add scope, mod, case and pump, thats £500 allin) and ill do my best to tell you what i know and learned

 

This rifle as we know is a Gamo/BSA joint project. The barrel is a cold hammer forged work of art which will obviously keep shape and accuracy being tougher than most barrels out there in its class. Its light, great to hold, nice 2 stage trigger pressure, built in suppressor and delivers pinpoint accuracy as long as ur pressure is within 110-200 bar, anything over or under u tend to see pellet lift or drop which pi**es you off if ur shooting perfect groups at the range (which you will). Keep it in the sweet spot and ur pellet on pellet 7/10 i kid you not !

 

Shooting indoors at 32 yards this rifle grouped 10 shots within a 5 pence piece (i know, couldn't believe it myself). pellet was the .22 RWS hobby 11.9g. Ill let the results speak for themselves

 

My thoughts, anything within 45-50 yards u shoot hunting, its dead :shoot:

 

Reason i've ordered the BSA R10se .177 is for long range target shooting, not hunting nor stopping power. Guy at the shop said he will give me full refund towards the BSA, i said "sorry pal, im keeping the gamo, its that ******* good, i'll have the BSA aswell, but i aint parting with this one"

 

Ive fell in love with this gun only because ive tested it and know what it can do, BSA/Gamo have created a game changer here and i aint selling mine for no price !

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232 bar fill gives around 85 shots....RM8 will give you 100 more, is about the same price and is screwed to a Lothar Walther tube - hammer forged do - da's may sound like the dogs but how many Gammys win FT comps. I do like some of the review comments where they boast the collaboration between the 2 companies - Gammy bought BSA out about 10 years ago. BTW winnie2457 - you get a years warranty on a pencil sharpener.

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232 bar fill gives around 85 shots....RM8 will give you 100 more, is about the same price and is screwed to a Lothar Walther tube - hammer forged do - da's may sound like the dogs but how many Gammys win FT comps. I do like some of the review comments where they boast the collaboration between the 2 companies - Gammy bought BSA out about 10 years ago. BTW winnie2457 - you get a years warranty on a pencil sharpener.

You are very much right about the RM8, never shot it but pro views on youtube tell it all, amazing piece of kit hands down. One thing to bare in mind is that the gamo phox alone is a £300 gun (£500 package includes scope, mod, pump, case) hence the all in price. I know there are better guns on the market sure, but how many at £300 PCP can group 10 shots at 32 yards and all within a 5 pence piece. I always say let the results speak for themselves, that's why i posted. Happy shooting !

 

 

This .177 didnt even come close to my 32 yard groups with .22 so be careful when you ASSUME one gun is better than the other in future !

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Nice guns..it's always good to see a happy shooter.by looking at your posts your well happy.and it goes to show that you don't have to spend a fortune to have fun

So right, this new BSA barrel is so bloody accurate its unreal !. ranged a pigeon in at 47yards (scope set to 32yards indoors from yesterday at range) small breeze right to left, 5 click up, 2 click right, took the shot, BOOM, head shot, brown bread ! £300 PCP, head shots at 47 yards ? anyone do any better with a same priced pcp, post and share ?

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Was talking to an elderly gent at a local dealer the other day who had brought in a Webley service Air Rifle (nice), we got talking and he told me of a Rabbit that he had killed many years ago at over 80 paces - I'm guessing around the 70 yard mark. Shots like this prove nothing of the accuracy of the gun simply the irresponsibility of the man behind it. As for cost - the Gammy is cheap because that's what it is.....cheap. The only way to judge it's value will be in 5 years when you try and sell it, for example...RM8 can be bought for £399 and have been around since 2014, if you look hard you might find a used one for £350 - that's where quality and value come into play (in fact I have seen used examples for sale above the new price!!). So lets say you buy an RM8 new then go used for it's ornaments - nice Hawke 3 - 12 x 50 scopes have been on this site for £30, O.K. so it doesn't have it's box or that useless little piece of yellow cloth but it's still more than enough glass for Mr.Magoo to shoot hats off his sisters Barbie doll way into the evening. Used 3ltr 300 bar tank will be around the £70 mark and most people have a tank then simply buy a quick release connector to attach their latest guns probe to - I use 3 different PCP's all feeding off the one bottle. So an 8 shot PCP with decent glass on top and enough air to blow up the Klumps spare tyres for £500 is not that difficult.

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Pumps are hard work, but you get a good workout. :)

 

Pumping up my very nice Webley Axsor to 200 bar, can leave me puffing like an old man - on the other hand, I was 66 yesterday so what do I expect?

 

I hope the Op really enjoys his new rifle. He certainly seems to be, so long may it continue.

 

I'd only say this; there are some really good older PCP rifles available for not a lot of money second hand, and the Webley Axsor is in my view among the most accurate rifles I ever shot, and I've shot a few from .17hmr to .58 cal black powder, rifled muskets, and .303 service rifles. In sub 12ft pound configuration it shoots successive shots within 1 fps muzzle velocity, and at 25foot pounds it stays within 4 fps variance in muzzle velocity. The Axsor is precisely made and very easy to service. After owning it for about 9 years, I can't see what could go wrong with it that I can't put right for the price of some rubber O rings. There is one on here right now in the Private sales section going for £300 with bottle and pump and scope.

 

That Gamo group looks nice and tight as well, so if the gun holds up to use, the Op will have a lot of accurate shooting.

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Axsor is a totally different kettle of Banana's - it's a quality act from the start from one of the industries best designers. Got a tenner says that your 9 year old Axsor will still be ventilating vermin another 20 years after the Gammy Pox has become part of some house wives prized fridge. The used one for sale by Bishop is an absolute giveaway.

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The used one for sale by Bishop is an absolute giveaway.

 

I totally agree with you there. I'm struggling with myself not to buy it. already have one, and I don't need it, but it is brand new even though it is probably 22 years old. He says it has put 200 pellets up the spout and lived in the cupboard. Never been outside. He doesn't even say it needs O rings even though he recommends it. But they cost about £13 for the proper ones, and it is a piece of you know what to out them in.

 

 

Do you mean logun axsor?

No - Webley marketed Fredrik Axelson's first Commercially available PCP rifle as the Webley Axsor. Axelson had them made in Sweden by a small CNC Engineering company. I think they started making them about 1995. The rifles are a class act - real engineered quality. He then sold them through Logun and also after that made more or less the same rifle and sold them himself under the FX brand. I believe he still owns the FX company. The almost identical rifle to mine was sold as the FX2000. The Logun had a different bolt and the FX2000 had two small power control screws to adjust power. There was also a pressure gauge on the later rifles. These three rifles are identical in their major components and were designed to run around the high twenties to 30 foot pounds. Mine as the early version of teh series has no port restrictor and power is governed in a different way. They had to be throttled down for sale in the UK. This is why when you have them on a ticket running as they were designed to be, they deliver very consistent velocities. I bet my rimfire rifles don't deliver anything like 4fps variance in muzzle velocity over a magazine.
Almost all the parts are available at Chambers.
By the way - when I talk about putting in O rings, just in case anybody reading this at some time in the future is clueless about working on these things - ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE CYLINDER IS COMPLETELY DEPRESSURISED BEFORE YOU START. To do otherwise is to set off a small bomb in your hands. Undoing bolts on a pressurised cylinder could easily kill you or someone else.
Do I need to warn people without a FAC about not turning these things up? Surely not. I read an account the other day on an airgun specialists website about a numpty being stopped with an over powered air rifle a few pounds over the limit and he was taken from the dock howling about how he had no idea it wasn't legal after he got sent down for two years.
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I took my 25ft pound Webley Axsor out to the farm this morning and I tested it at 35 yards for grouping and power. It was a bit windy so the groups were a bit big at about an inch or so, but the power was outstanding. It shot right through a one inch seasoned pine plank and made a loud ping off the steel hurdle that was directly behind it. This one inch steel tube was dented and had an 8mm lead splatter mark on it - that after going through one inch the plank. I don't doubt it will do well against 50 or 60 yard rabbits in this configuration on a calm day. Between five and fifty yards the trajectory is essentially flat with a max of half an inch up and down over that range. I got 35 full power shots before the POI started to drop, and even after 43 shots it was still way above 12ft pounds and perfectly usable. It still had 100 Bar in the reservoir. It took 105 pumps to get it back up to 200 bar when I got home. I was bl00dy puffing at the end.
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Was talking to an elderly gent at a local dealer the other day who had brought in a Webley service Air Rifle (nice), we got talking and he told me of a Rabbit that he had killed many years ago at over 80 paces - I'm guessing around the 70 yard mark. Shots like this prove nothing of the accuracy of the gun simply the irresponsibility of the man behind it. As for cost - the Gammy is cheap because that's what it is.....cheap. The only way to judge it's value will be in 5 years when you try and sell it, for example...RM8 can be bought for £399 and have been around since 2014, if you look hard you might find a used one for £350 - that's where quality and value come into play (in fact I have seen used examples for sale above the new price!!). So lets say you buy an RM8 new then go used for it's ornaments - nice Hawke 3 - 12 x 50 scopes have been on this site for £30, O.K. so it doesn't have it's box or that useless little piece of yellow cloth but it's still more than enough glass for Mr.Magoo to shoot hats off his sisters Barbie doll way into the evening. Used 3ltr 300 bar tank will be around the £70 mark and most people have a tank then simply buy a quick release connector to attach their latest guns probe to - I use 3 different PCP's all feeding off the one bottle. So an 8 shot PCP with decent glass on top and enough air to blow up the Klumps spare tyres for £500 is not that difficult.

Quick off topic question, if i had £800 - £1k whats the best rifle i could get and why ?

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Look here bruno, this was a topic based on peoples experience with this rifle to share with others, NOT a "this gun is better than that gun". you obviously dont like this gun as all your comments sound like fan boy above anything else. If this rifle doesn't interest you, then why are you here flaming like fan boys do, do us all a favor and shut ur mouth and go troll a thread you have more interest in cos personally truth be told ur doing my ******* head in, now move on !

Seriously? It isn't even your thread new boy! Bruno hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes, this is what a forum is for.

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Ooooooh - missed that little tantrum from HesHicks, been removed I'm guessing but thanks winnieandbezza for highlighting it. Whilst I have no interest in competing in a battle of wits with someone who is clearly unarmed might I point out that this is a public forum and if you don't like peoples opinions then move on but I might add that I have been using Airguns for over 40 years and have owned/used a great many of them, I have instructed Cadets in the art of Rifle shooting and I control vermin with one nearly everyday on a semi pro basis (also spent many years in the Aviation Industry in a precision engineering role) I hold a section 1 as well as SGC and explosives licence, when I'm not shooting I collect/restore pre 1900 English Hammer Guns. I was rather hoping that my experience would grant me a sound basis on which to make a judgement on the Gamo in question or, in fact, any other Gamo that I have ever encountered but if I am , in fact, "doing your head in" then I bow down to your clearly superior knowledge of Guns and eloquent use of the English language.

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