Mentalmac Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Last week I was shooting with a friend on his land (he owns a few 100 acres of land bordering a disused vineyard which see's a load of activity of rabbits, game and pigeons etc...). So, early morning we are walking the perimeter, just me with my 12g and him with his dog and my Lab on the lead. Whilst walking we heard the noise of a deer, and thought it had spooked and gone through the scrub land between my mates and the next door land owner (An older lady). Next thing you know, we hear terrific barking and horrific screaming of a deer as well as a human shrieking loudly. Panicking, I slip my 12g and put in the truck (only 50 odd metres behind us). we run around the scrub land and over to her land and she's wailing "Help me, help me, my dogs got a deer". We arrived and her Mamalute was literally eating a large muntjac buck literally alive (from it's behind upward). The deer is shrieking and screaming and making all manner of noises and struggling on it's front legs but can't get away and the malamute is chewing it's back leg and butt off. The old lady had tried to get them apart but been bit by her own dog. My mate is quite hands on (he's a pest controller, we used to work together) and managed to get this dog off and the lady managed to get it's lead back on and tied to a post (with my mates help). The Munty was in a terrible state, dragging itself along but then stopping and looking frightened and useless. I had to dispatch the Munty, as it was in a terrible way. The old lady told us that this dog was a rescue that she's had for about 6 months, it had been badly beaten by it's Irish traveling former owners... The point of my post is just to show the level of damage a dog can do within minutes. This whole attack only lasted maybe 5 minutes in reality. I know it's likely in a lot of dogs nature to do this, but it really was a sight to behold - the owner was powerless and useless in fact. My mate dig remark to her that imagine if that was another dog and you can tell she was thinking about that a lot. Here's some pics of the damage: (I didn't see any reason why we couldn't at least use some of the non affected meat for my dog, who's raw fed so I gralloched and skinned the deer and it's made plenty of meals for my Lab over the next few months). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Seems a waste togive it to the dog, why not eat it yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 That's an incredible amount of damage considering the owner was with the dog when the attack started. And the suffering the deer would have received still being alive at the point, good job you were there 🖒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fal Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Poor deer, that must have been terrible :( Well done for dispatching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 The owner really needs to have a think, she got a dog that quite clearly she cannot control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) To be honest its not entirely the owners fault, the rehoming centres should take some responsibility too. In fact i don't want to demonise certain breeds, but any large dog with a chequred/abusive history really should be well vetted before they even think about rehoming and they should not be afraid to PTS them. Plenty of smaller breeds can be aggressive little beggars too esp if abused previously but at least they lack the strength that the larger dogs have to either pull free or inflict damage As has been said (in the dog attack thread) the vast vast majority of dog owners have no idea about there dogs or wot there capable of or prefer to stick there head in the sand and ignore it. U'd be surprised how many even well trained dogs would have a go at a deer in there garden/territory just most wouldn't catch them. All/any dog can have moments when all the training goes out the window for a few seconds and thats all it takes, i've seen some FT and FTCH dogs when the wheels come off some days, so it even happens to the very best. Just most won't be as extreme or they spot the situatiion first before the dog does and stop it before it even starts, when the blood is up few dogs would listen Edited January 13, 2017 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Seems a waste togive it to the dog, why not eat it yourself? Ah, I did keep the best bits for myself. There was bite marks on the front end too, especially the shoulder on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 As has been said the vast vast majority of dog owners have no idea about there dogs or wot there capable of or prefer to stick there head in the sand and ignore it. That is the plain truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Thanks guys, I'm glad I was there to dispatch it, the noises made by the deer were quite saddening. She blatantly had no control over the dog, and I agree with what Scotslad says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 The owner really needs to have a think, she got a dog that quite clearly she cannot control.Unfortunately so have many thousands of other people in this country, this should go a way to showing its not just chavs morons with status dogs either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Unfortunately so have many thousands of other people in this country, this should go a way to showing its not just chavs morons with status dogs either Quite so. The woman is substantially wealthy and accomplished. Just a bit thick. I was out walking the dog a while back and got chatting to a lovely lady who was from the Swiss Alps, she moved to England permanently and she brought a labrador. She said "it's the perfect dog of the environment I am in and what I want out of it" and when we chatted further she was saying how annoyed she gets seeing 'musher' breeds in the UK by owners who don't understand them, how they need to be kept cool, and what their temperament is really like - they just buy them because they look 'sweet' - she even went as far as to tell me that her local friends back home in the Alps laugh about people who do it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Certainly made a mess of that in a short time. Good you was on hand to dispatch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Malamute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 That dog is an accident waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 well done you......................cant say what else needs to be said.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Those dogs scare me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Time for that dog to visit a vet or not be out without a muzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Well done. I think the lady needs to be made aware that it could be a child next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) My brother has Malamutes and his old dog Bex would catch a rabbit by running it down like a greyhound and then throw back his head and down it in one. The crunching would turn your stomach. They are serious hunting dogs in Alaska, they feed themselves. Its a brave man who would beat one.. Its only the dogs that do this, the one in the OP needs to be castrated. Not just snipped Its interesting that it attacked the Munty in the way that it did, that's how bears do it, they eat their prey live by sitting on them and devouring the rump first Edited January 17, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Those dogs scare me.yep look to much like a wolf & don't have a glowing breed profile. not summit you'd let off the lead in the company of anything with a pulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Wow, scary stuff. Makes one shudder to think of what "might" have happened if it was a child. As has been said by others its a good job you were there to end the suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I half wonder if the travellers had been using it to bring down deer. Despite what others have said, they are not aggressive dogs in the sense that they could be used as a police dog or an attack dog but they can hunt for food like no other breed I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I half wonder if the travellers had been using it to bring down deer. Despite what others have said, they are not aggressive dogs in the sense that they could be used as a police dog or an attack dog but they can hunt for food like no other breed I knowur proabaly right with ur 1st part.once Ur probably right with the 1st part. And once a dog has learned something like that ur never really going to train it out, to natural and fun to a dog To be fair thats not really aggresion, more drive or hunting intinct, which is something different. I bet most labs would also have a go at something like that if they were free runing in a big garden with no supervison, my springer has brought done some failry big fallow bucks that were injured before. Usually more apparent with terriers i've seen some real 'hard' working terriers that are the softest thing ever above ground completely different story below it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Not sure why people mention other dogs or children when they see dogs do this, not related at all, deer are a natural prey for dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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