Big Al Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I rejoined BASC in September after a long spell with other associations. The reason I left was because I felt strongly aggrieved over how our club was being treated. I returned as I still think that it is the best voice for shooting out there. I remain a member of CAI also. I'm hopeful for a bright future and that this painful and expensive episode will cause lessons to have been learned and then be confined to history. Onward and upward. Otherwise I'm out for good this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 The fact that issues have been addressed and dealt with speak volumes for them IMO. I must get round to rejoining now I'm a senior citizen and soon to be out and about again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) David , Thank you for making what you have available public. Sadly this has dragged on for far too long , mainly because BASC have been very fair and gone through due process to make sure that can wash their hands clean of frankly a very bad state of affairs . Onward and upward , let's go shooting. Edited March 3, 2017 by Salopian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4268276/HR-boss-pro-shooting-group-claiming-unfair-dismissal.html Please read and digest this , maybe then you may realise what BASC have had to deal with. Sadly I have a feeling that there may be more members money wasted getting this resolved . If anyone would like to hear how badly I was treated please ask . All I can say is that I have a lot of respect for David Ilsley, Steve Bloomfield ,John Thornley, Tommy Mayne, Christopher Graffius, and Peter Glenser. Like Council members some of the above may move on , but rest assured I will always support BASC and best shooting practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It takes a certain amount of courage to let this stuff out into the public domain. Well done BASC, many other organisations could learn from this. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Agreed,we never really got an explanation of the Corbridge offices demise.......... I still think BASC are our best Org to protect shooting but there have obviously been many muddy undercurrents flowing ! Yes I had quite a bit of contact with them for my Assoc. Including providing speakers for our monthly meetings. Then one day no more answers to e mails Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It takes a certain amount of courage to let this stuff out into the public domain. Well done BASC, many other organisations could learn from this. David. David, With due respect, I think you mean Alastair Mitchell showed courage not BASC because it was he who refused to reconsider, and forced BASC to take action, he was the whistle blower, you should read the press reports, then you will realise that things need to change at head office drastically, transparency and honesty needs to be top of there list with the likes of you and Terry pushing for it, remember nothing stays the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 What depressing reading and an indictment of the structure and management of the BASC. Of course we can applaud BASC for making this announcement, not that they had any alternative with the pending public Tribunals being reported in the Press and probable further similar actions. Hopefully the Council will now review the entire structure and ethos of the Association and give us something more fit for purpose. After this , I think they have quite a bit of ground to make up. Great respect to Bill Harriman and his team for putting up with this debacle and giving us good service throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Agreed,it must have been a stressful work environment for the decent people who were caught up in it all. Hope it is resolved and the org can move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Back in the old days people would just have the good grace to resign and **** off quietly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Back in the old days people would just have the good grace to resign and **** off quietly. I for a penny in for a pound, sounds to me like one hell of a lot of arrogance and total lack of respect towards others, no organisation needs people like that working with others, best that he was gone. Edited March 3, 2017 by E.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Back in the old days people would just have the good grace to resign and **** off quietly. `good grace` ..........mmmm,think that left us a few decades ago ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Put enough money in a pot and the sharks will turn up. BASC has become a business now and shooting people are just there to supply the moneey for them to jolly along. Bet no one even gets hauled up before aa judge if they have been misusing funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4268276/HR-boss-pro-shooting-group-claiming-unfair-dismissal.html Please read and digest this , maybe then you may realise what BASC have had to deal with. Sadly I have a feeling that there may be more members money wasted getting this resolved . If anyone would like to hear how badly I was treated please ask . All I can say is that I have a lot of respect for David Ilsley, Steve Bloomfield ,John Thornley, Tommy Mayne, Christopher Graffius, and Peter Glenser. Like Council members some of the above may move on , but rest assured I will always support BASC and best shooting practices. I must apologise, I was half asleep when I read your post, you obviously have a story to tell, please enlighten us all thank you. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 A great number of the deceased fowlers who formed WAGBI must be roling over in their graves. To think that this organisation has come down to practices like those reported. Swift then Ali. Something needs to sorted - and fast. We cannot have another disaster after the two aforementioned. I campaigned against WAGBI becoming BASC and it seems that I was probably right. It is now a very large organisation and seems to be suffering with all the problems that size brings along with it. Get a grip gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Difficult dealing with these things at the top but looks like it's sorted and now time to move on. Your right Grandalf size does bring complexity but it also brings much more leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Difficult dealing with these things at the top but looks like it's sorted and now time to move on. Your right Grandalf size does bring complexity but it also brings much more leverage. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Difficult dealing with these things at the top but looks like it's sorted and now time to move on. Your right Grandalf size does bring complexity but it also brings much more leverage. Provided that we're all at the same end of the fulcrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Provided that we're all at the same end of the fulcrum. Isn't a fulcrum in the middle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Isn't a fulcrum in the middle? Depends on how much leverage you wish to apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Alan Jarret for chief executive? I hope not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Was Ali a 'business boy' or a hunting, shooting, fishing bloke? Clearly he wasn't a leader of men. Fiddler in the camp springs to mind. The next appointment needs to be right doesn't it? We need a really strong leader NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Sir Ian Botham please stand forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Did the second investigation report really say that Alan Jarrett "worked "on the first investigation report BEFORE handing it to committee for them to see ?.then when they didnt accept its findings through the toys out and resigned ! I wonder if Ali was as in charge as everyone thinks maybe a bit intimidated by some of his own staff and paid the price . i dont think we will ever know. Still better all the infection is cut away and gives the association chance to recover the damage thats been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Alan Jarret for chief executive? I hope not!! I would agree, I don't think he needs to have anything to do with BASC in the future. A complete new broom(s) is needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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