ElvisThePelvis Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Sadly two young people died as a result of poor modification to a car. Although not the only cause, why would anyone wish to remove a catalytic converter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 To save the cost of replacing a defective one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 New wheels for the caravan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Supposedly get more power as allows the exhaust gases to get our quicker, plus can put a replacement and nicer sounding exhaust on. The actual removal of the cat wouldn't be the problem it would be the poor fitting of the replacement. Just a very unfortunate accident and terrible waste of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Was going to ask what happened,but just googled it,tragic, Edited March 21, 2017 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Was going to ask what happened,but just googled it,tragic, would you have a link please dave ? , ive done a google but couldnt find it. was it just a case of exhaust gasses leaking into the vehicle ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3140301/essex-couple-dead-car-poisonous-fumes-after-vehicle-modification/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3140301/essex-couple-dead-car-poisonous-fumes-after-vehicle-modification/amp/ cheers kingo. a very sad story , and just goes to show how seemingly little things can be so dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 i havnt read the link...but on the news it was reported that the lad was an apprentice mechanic at a ford dealership..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Tragic to see such people losing their lives in this way, but I always thought it was illegal to remove the catalytic converter as it would fail the emissions test (MOT) Plus does it not make your insurance void unless you notify them about the mod? I'm sure someone with more knowledge on the law regarding this will put me right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) A mate had a TVR Cebera that he put straight pipes on after removing the existing with catalytic converters in. He put them back on for the emissions test. It was loud and produced the occasional flame. Pretty sure it's not illegal but stand to be corrected Edited March 22, 2017 by digger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Not nice for the loss of life but removing a cat would not cause that (how many cars don't have a cat). Incorrect fitting of a straight through pipe still can't imagine it happen, that was very unlucky Edited March 22, 2017 by Luckyshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 More than likely he put a full system on from manifold back and the manifold gasket or downpipe wasn't sealed properly causing the gas to go through the car vents. I can't see how a leaking underneath exhaust could cause their deaths as it would have to be a huge leak with a huge hole right above it into the cabin which modern cars don't have.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 A mate had a TVR Cebera that he put straight pipes on after removing the existing with catalytic converters in. He put them back on for the emissions test. It was loud and produced the occasional flame. Pretty sure it's not illegal but stand to be corrected If it's newer than 1993, it's illegal (unless it'd pass an emissions test without the cats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Apparently he also cut vents into the bonnet. That, added to a possibly poorly fitted exhaust, caused fumes to enter the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Very sad news, I don't understand how this could happen, where they sleeping in the car ?? Surely they would feel drowsy for a while ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I think that you will find that the law was changed a couple of years ago making it illegal to remove the catalytic converter on a road going car it will not pass the next MOT or at least that is what I was told on another forum by an LPG installer as the cat is not really needed if you are running on LPG but you still have to keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I think that you will find that the law was changed a couple of years ago making it illegal to remove the catalytic converter on a road going car it will not pass the next MOT or at least that is what I was told on another forum by an LPG installer as the cat is not really needed if you are running on LPG but you still have to keep it. It is an mot failure to not have a cat fitted but your vehicle can still pass an emissions test without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Leaving out all the do,s do nots, whys and where fors, It was sadly a very unfortunate accident R.I.P. Edited March 22, 2017 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 The BBC news site have a video showing the part and it leaking the gas. Basically poorly fitted allowed the fumes to escape into the engine bay, drawn into the fan system and then into the car itself. And they were stationary in the car with wondows shut. Not sure he fitted the new part, think saying he works for ford insinuates it but its not actually said. The monoxide reader read over 400 and only reads upto 500. Thoughts are with the two families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 This was the other side of our town, at the time there were people being found slumped/passed out all over that part of town 😳 10 in total iirc, turned out to be a rogue batch of heroin, most assumed it was drug related at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 No cat on mine, no emissions test problems either. The exhaust gas recirculation system is also blanked off. I'm rather puzzled how they managed to gas themselves like that without cottoning on something was wrong, I had a failing exhaust component venting into the car on an old 2cv and it was not nice. Headachey and nauseous for a day or so after a long drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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