ElvisThePelvis Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 First Pup arrives in 6 weeks... Where do I start? Ideas for books and equipment appreciated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Ridgeback, Rottweiler, Jack Russell or Standard Poodle? Do you want to read the book - or the dog to stand on it? Dog breed, purpose (peg dog, picking up, beating, deer tracking etc?) might give someone a clue? Sorry, but psychic I am not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Ok, point taken.. Cocker/cockapoo cross (allergy issues) General rough shootingdog and family pet ideally.. Hoping to find a simple guide to training and understand what kit Isis necessary and avoid buying all the **** I don't really need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 The only things u really need are a few slip leads, and plenty of whistles (i leave them in game bags pick up etc) nothing worse than arriving to work ur dogs and forgot ur whistle A coupe of puppy dummies, but u can use rolled up socks, tennis balls it really doenae matter that much. There is a lot of gimmicks out there, some are ok others really aren't needed The secret is patience and consistancy. Plenty of decent dvd's out there by top trainers, plenty of books too Joe Irvings are good for spaniels, i always liked James Douglas's for a general gundog and quite easy to understand, but there loads out there and most are similarish. I'd also highly recommend joining a group training thing or get some 1-1 lessons well worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Its a minefield of info out there ask ten folk get ten different replies. If your not careful it gets very confusing. Decide on a method (positive or clicker for example) and stick to it. Write down or follow a list of what you want to train and stick to it rigidly. Do not move on until whatever you are currently training is well understood or you will end up with a dozen half good things, six very good things is much better. If you see a trainer or go to a club check first what methods they use as it may not be something you are comfortable with (not that I am saying any particular method is wrong as it matters not to me how other folk train there dog) Initially you want the pup to consider you to be the best thing since bone shaped biscuits so above all have fun with your friend 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Ok, point taken.. Cocker/cockapoo cross (allergy issues) General rough shootingdog and family pet ideally.. Hoping to find a simple guide to training and understand what kit Isis necessary and avoid buying all the **** I don't really need Thanks. I didn't intend for my comment to sound crappy - but did need some guidance!! As a starting point I found this book excellent (buy secondhand?) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Training-Working-Spaniel-Janet-Menzies-ebook/dp/B006ZNEDCW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491378422&sr=8-1&keywords=training+the+working+cocker and the only advice I would give is don't try and do too much too soon and don't overdo it. Train for 10 minutes at a time then break for something different (playtime / walk). Also some very good (free ) videos on YouTube. Enjoy your dog. Edited April 5, 2017 by Eyefor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 when you feed the pup hold it's dish in one hand just above the dog whe it looks up to the dish raise your othe hand palm facing the pup and move ever so slightly towards the pup as the pup backs away it will put it bum on the ground soon as this happens plenty of praise and lower the dish so the pup can feed.For me this is a good first step towards a bond and manners.As mentioned get a good training book and read it before you get the pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Worth the £25 a lesson when the time comes. http://www.romanrivergundogtraining.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 As a roughshooting dog condition it as a spaniel given the cocker in the mix, but initially get it home, settled and bonding with you. Play with it, don't try and train it. Bring out its confidence, which doesn't normally take much doing in a household environment. Don't pander to it, if it is terrified of the TV, ignore it and watch TV. If it runs away when you vacuum, let it go and keep doing what you're doing. Far more important to have a confident happy dog to start working with properly in 6 or 8 or 12 months than one who thinks if it exhibits fear it will be rewarded. Good luck and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks. I didn't intend for my comment to sound crappy - but did need some guidance!! As a starting point I found this book excellent (buy secondhand?) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Training-Working-Spaniel-Janet-Menzies-ebook/dp/B006ZNEDCW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491378422&sr=8-1&keywords=training+the+working+cocker and the only advice I would give is don't try and do too much too soon and don't overdo it. Train for 10 minutes at a time then break for something different (playtime / walk). Also some very good (free ) videos on YouTube. Enjoy your dog. Thanks, and likewise! I hadn't taken your comment as anything other than genuine but my response could be misconstrued. Really looking forward to training the dog, then on to kids/mrs etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 As a roughshooting dog condition it as a spaniel given the cocker in the mix, but initially get it home, settled and bonding with you. Play with it, don't try and train it. Bring out its confidence, which doesn't normally take much doing in a household environment. Don't pander to it, if it is terrified of the TV, ignore it and watch TV. If it runs away when you vacuum, let it go and keep doing what you're doing. Far more important to have a confident happy dog to start working with properly in 6 or 8 or 12 months than one who thinks if it exhibits fear it will be rewarded. Good luck and enjoy it. Brill, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Worth the £25 a lesson when the time comes. http://www.romanrivergundogtraining.co.uk/ Fantastic, thanks, only about 30 mins from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Or Frank Walker. http://www.frankwalker.co.uk/ I use Frank for my Lab, my Fiance uses Andy for her cocker. They about 10 minutes from each other. Fantastic, thanks, only about 30 mins from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 There are some pinned threads above this section have a look at the one marked obedience training, some very useful tips there for starting out most of all enjoy. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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