Danger-Mouse Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Quite interesting that the ATF doesn't even count these as firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Think as they get more powerful that may change. One thing airguns being squirrel and groundhog guns or plinking in the yard guns but taking big game and will bring them up on the radar of the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 .50 cal air guns have been around for years over the pond, can't see any alterations to laws being made in the foreseeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Is that what was used in No Country For Old Men? I couldnt figure out what is was firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Is that what was used in No Country For Old Men? I couldnt figure out what is was firing. Air tank driven bolt gun. Edit: Do you mean the moderated shotgun ? Edited June 12, 2017 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I personally can't see the point in any air cal bigger than .25 . Once you go over 50 fpe of a .25 cal .your firmly into rim fire territory and a .50 cal air is centre fire territory in energy terms but running at 950 fps with airgun trajectory .?why ? Whats the point ? Novelty value would soon run out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I can only imagine the price of pellets for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I can only imagine the price of pellets for it A lot are cast/swaged from scrap lead, so quite cheap as they are not dissimilar to the old black powder muzzle loading bullets, so dies and moulds are available. 10 pence a bullet wouldn't be far out. If you have to buy then, 25p each or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 And I thought it was going to be a wind up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 .303 is great fun, my Wolverine .303 at 100 fpe is great fun to shoot and when it hits bunnys they are very dead!!!!! atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 .303 is great fun, my Wolverine .303 at 100 fpe is great fun to shoot and when it hits bunnys they are very dead!!!!! atb brian Are they deader than when killed by a sub 12 airgun.? Extra dead ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Are they deader than when killed by a sub 12 airgun.? Extra dead ?? Probably depends how far away they are when you shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Probably depends how far away they are when you shoot them. Probably more pieces to pick up. I thought the .177 HMR was overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Probably nothing to pick up, sounds like a mortor to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 No real difference to a 22LR in doing the job, slightly bigger hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Wonder when we get solid slug shotgun airguns for wild boar and elephants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Wonder when we get solid slug shotgun airguns for wild boar and elephants. About 200 years ago.... One European army fully equipped its soldiers with large bore airguns. VERY popular guns at the time for hunting (no flash or smoke) no expensive to make & frequently fatal to the user if they blew up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Think as they get more powerful that may change. ...but taking big game and will bring them up on the radar of the authorities. Like US laws on black powder guns not being a firearm you mean? (Legal to buy through the post, legal to own b.p. handguns in the big cities that ban handgun ownership, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandango Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 .303 is great fun, my Wolverine .303 at 100 fpe is great fun to shoot and when it hits bunnys they are very dead!!!!! atb brian got to agree I have one and I love it..... a smile comes with every shot.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Like US laws on black powder guns not being a firearm you mean? (Legal to buy through the post, legal to own b.p. handguns in the big cities that ban handgun ownership, etc.) Austria . I have shot one several years ago . Had a round screw on air tank under the action . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I personally can't see the point in any air cal bigger than .25 . Once you go over 50 fpe of a .25 cal .your firmly into rim fire territory and a .50 cal air is centre fire territory in energy terms but running at 950 fps with airgun trajectory .?why ? Whats the point ? Novelty value would soon run out . But that's the modern mindset with modern knowledge of modern, smokeless rifles. Back when whoever it was that made that 700+ yard shot with his .45-70 rifle to knock out one of the British commanders in the war of independence - Billy DIxon, perhaps??? - no-one batted an eyelid about using massive, slow projectiles and aiming so that the high point of their bullet's arc was 50' above the level of the target they were aiming at. It's more artillery than sniper, but that was the best way, when you couldn't manufacture steel capable of handling smokeless pressures. You don't need velocity - just accurate range judgement and a table of drops (or intimate knowledge of your rifle / cartridge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think these would be fairly pointless, as a powder burner would be more viable in every way as I can see anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart.shot Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Got To say gents that I agree with the comments about the 303. Hitting a rabbit with a powder burner is one thing and then there is the 303. Outstanding bit of kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Like US laws on black powder guns not being a firearm you mean? (Legal to buy through the post, legal to own b.p. handguns in the big cities that ban handgun ownership, etc.) Don't have to go as far as that. BP available on free sale to anyone of 18 in France They also have the large calibre air gums in .357 etc avail to purchased using your normal Licence. Edited July 22, 2017 by Jaymo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 got to agree I have one and I love it..... a smile comes with every shot.................. I fully AGREE with you Fandango, i only bought my wolverine for fun it certainly devastates prey ,but more useful is my fac Airranger .22cal @38 fpe this has killed great numbers of rabbits out to 70--80 yds ,i use this also for NV bunnies with my Nite- Site Wolf Nv great fun NV shooting. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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