alros01 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 can anyone give me there thoughts on this gun I've been looking at a 2007 sporter just wanted to know if they are a good gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) I took an F3 supersport ( 2015 model I think ) out on demo for the day at orston. Although I didn't buy the gun in the end that certainly should not be taken that I thought the gun was not all it's ment to be. ( I like my berettas to much so I bought a DT11 trap ) Although the gun was not to my liking I could not help but notice just how well made it looked and felt. The finish from metal to woodwork was great. Handling was a tad on the light side for me and so felt a little flighty on the barrels however you can adjust to suit your needs. I was looking at this gun for trap disaplins which I feel would not really play to the guns strengths. I have no doubt that it would me a pretty awesome sporter ( it's not don't John bidwell any harm that's for sure ) The trigger pulls are very good but I wouldn't of expected any less from blaser. Also if blaser make any updates the gun they will update yours free of charge I believe to the current spec. Very much worth a look. Edited June 23, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alros01 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 thanks for the that Stevo what was the recoil like on the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 How can I put it ..... you knew you had pulled the trigger but certainly no more than any other gun. But remember the gun has got in my opinion the best stock and barrel balancing system out there. You can transform the gun from an 8lb sporter to a 9.5 lbs monster and still retain perfect balance. It's a very clever bit of kit with a lot of thought and technology gone into it. If your serious about buying one. Find somewhere that will let you demo it. that's the only way you can get an idea if the gun is for you. Like i say the only faults I could find with the one I used. Was the comb was too high as it was a semi high rib. The heads up shooting position felt a tad to upright for me personally also it felt bit on the skinny side ( but I'm a trap shooter and so I favour a big heavy gun ) and I'm a hardcore beretta tart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO3isme Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Customer service is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 How can I put it ..... you knew you had pulled the trigger but certainly no more than any other gun. But remember the gun has got in my opinion the best stock and barrel balancing system out there. You can transform the gun from an 8lb sporter to a 9.5 lbs monster and still retain perfect balance. It's a very clever bit of kit with a lot of thought and technology gone into it. If your serious about buying one. Find somewhere that will let you demo it. that's the only way you can get an idea if the gun is for you. Like i say the only faults I could find with the one I used. Was the comb was too high as it was a semi high rib. The heads up shooting position felt a tad to upright for me personally also it felt bit on the skinny side ( but I'm a trap shooter and so I favour a big heavy gun ) and I'm a hardcore beretta tart. Do you still shoot the CG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 I owned one for a short time - my youngest thought it was great. I didn't like it - very odd trigger pulls - hard to quantify, but not a patch on Browning / Miroku / Beretta. Got rid. Dealers were not keen - one told me he wasn't interested at any price. I sold another last year for a friend who had given up shooting - same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 After 18 months and quite a few thousand cartridges I'm still delighted with my F3. As there are various comb heights available, as well as adjustable combs, there's really no issue with comb height. Of course there's rarely an issue with stock length, either, as the F3 has a long stock with a recoil pad and adjustments are easily made by any gunsmith. I find it difficult to understand that anyone could have an issue with trigger pulls, mine are among the very best I've experienced in over half a century of shooting. As has been said, after sales service (should you need it) is second to none. The weight of the sporter combined with very precise tolerances in terms of head space etc (together with a replaceable breech face) bring very low levels of recoil. If mine was stolen or destroyed I would have another in a flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako7mm Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I had one for a short while. Adjustable comb, felt a perfect fit. But the felt recoil was punishing. I went back to a Miroku and was glad to see the back of the Blaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) I had one for a short while. Adjustable comb, felt a perfect fit. But the felt recoil was punishing. I went back to a Miroku and was glad to see the back of the Blaser. I've had a couple of F3's and found the recoil too much for me, they do have reliability problems too, After I sold my last Pro Sporter the plate for holding the barrel weights fell off with the next owner. A bloke I know bought a new F3 Super Sport recently it's going back because it will not fire. I'm back with a Browning/Miroku now and saved a lot of money as well. Edited June 25, 2017 by BlaserF3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alros01 Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 thanks for the info I've changed my mind on it as it wasn't as clean as I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 You really should shoot one before making any decisions. I could not live with the F3 or the F16. Having shot them both and been able to compare them with the Browning 725, I bought the 725 and saved some money into the bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Seen a few 725's doing the business at shoots this last year, a number of them were the trap versions which surprised me until I picked one up. A few mates shoot F3's and like them, I think the side plated higher grade ones are very nice as a clay and game gun. Edited June 25, 2017 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) People seem to have had some odd experiences with them from these comments. All the Blaser F3's are fully modular and adjustable so you can swap any action, barrel, stock or forend to suit and then Pro models are fully adjustable with balance weights front and rear. You can change it from a fairly light gun to a very heavy one in minutes and I've never noticed recoil when set either way. Triggers are also adjustable and regarded as one of the best there is. There are game, sporter, trap and hybrid models with adjustable and fixed game, mid or high ribs. Stocks come in various game, sporter and montecarlo types and there are three different forends. If you can't get one to fit it sounds like you either tried completely the wrong version or didn't spend time to do any of the setup? I know a lot of Blaser owners (I have a Facebook group) and many say that they have a similar fit to Browning/Miroku out of the box. The trigger is certainly miles better than the two Miroku's I own, which for a start have a lot of play in them. They are very reliable guns and pretty much bomb proof but I suppose there will always be the odd problem. Customer service is excellent from the manufacturer though I have heard some gunsmiths don't touch the action and want it sent back to Blaser due to the way it all works. I've had an F3 SuperTrap and now a Pro Vantage and absolutely love it. No problems with either. Edited June 28, 2017 by ChrisPCarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako7mm Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I don't want a 'fully modular ' gun. I want one that doesn't knock me about without buying other bits. I now have that. Wouldn't have another Blaser as a gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well I think that shows you didn't understand the idea begind it. Don't buy an F3 then because it IS a fully modular adjustable gun! You don't need to buy any other bits, you spec it to suit you in the first place (if you have specific non standard requirements) and the adjustable bits are all in the box??? You can add as much weight as you like so how it can have knocked you about I have no idea. I've tried 5 different models, with hard hitting clay and game cartridges and never noticed any more recoil than any other gun. When fully weighted up there's pretty much zero recoil with any load - like firing a 410. F16 is a lower spec version but you can buy options for that. Each to their own though! That's a bit like saying don't buy a Perazzi because I had one and it didn't fit me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 You can add as much weight as you like so how it can have knocked you about I have no idea. Well I think that shows you didn't understand That about sums it up. A few posters have said the recoil was a problem, but this is merely dismissed. I didn't find the recoil a problem, but the trigger pull was not very smooth. One of the worst trigger pulls I have come across in owning many over and unders. So much so, that I got rid fairly quickly. Before anyone dives in and says it was a one off, I have shot with two F3s - both the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 That about sums it up. A few posters have said the recoil was a problem, but this is merely dismissed. I didn't find the recoil a problem, but the trigger pull was not very smooth. One of the worst trigger pulls I have come across in owning many over and unders. So much so, that I got rid fairly quickly. Before anyone dives in and says it was a one off, I have shot with two F3s - both the same problem. A up Gordon. Just wondering the F3s your talking about were they the new models or the older F3 ? I only ask as I have shot a couple of the older ones ( I rekon about 2005 - 2008 ) and thought there were rubish triggers. I think you have summed up very well .... weird. But basically just not nice. However that one that I demo 'd which was only 18 months old I believe was really quite good. I have heard that there has been a few trigger upgrades over the past few yrs. but like I say this is only what I have heard. What truth is in it I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 stevo - you are correct. Both were the older type, but with very little usage. I am glad the later ones have had trigger upgrades, as they needed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) stevo - you are correct. Both were the older type, but with very little usage. I am glad the later ones have had trigger upgrades, as they needed them. Cheers Gordon. Yeah I think ( if memory serves ) the older ones that I shot had a strange. Almost two stage trigger. The first stage being a long travel and the second was extremely light / short. but with a spongy feel to them. Best way I can discribe it really. Edited June 28, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 The triggers on the two Blaser's I've had have certainly been superb and definitely not how you've described. Read any review of recent ones and they all say how good the triggers are. Maybe it was just very early ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 The triggers on the two Blaser's I've had have certainly been superb and definitely not how you've described. Read any review of recent ones and they all say how good the triggers are. Maybe it was just very early ones. Yes Chris we're both talking about the older models. However you see on my first couple of post I did give the new model trigger the thumbs up. But I have too agree with Gordon the trigger on older model was far from the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think Blaser will upgrade any older guns as someone else mentioned. If it's something that was a design flaw on earlier ones they seem very good at putting it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 They might be good at putting it right, but they should not have released the gun with these flaws. I know there are normally niggling problems when a new model is released, but the triggers on the two guns I shot were awful. The one I owned was low usage, whilst the other was owned by a friend, the late Graham Stephens of Gundeals, who bought the gun new. I shot it the first time he used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 A lad at our club and a forum member had all the internals changed free of charge to the latest design after his gun needed a part they no longer make. That by anyone's book is good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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