terence Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Looking for a 223 don't want to spend a lot as will probley only use it a couple of times a year secend hand tikka t3 lite with hawke digitail nite eye scope £700 or new howa 1500 mini action £490 LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL YOUR COMENTS will happyley spend less but don't want to rfd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 I'll be in a similar position when my renewal comes back with 223 added so will be following this thread with interest. I don't really want to spend any more than £350 on rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 I have both of these makes. My T3 Lite (243) is superb and has been accurate from the day I bought it new. I also have a Howa 1500 Varmint (204) which is excellent. If I were to look for another calibre, then the Howa would be my first port of call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 I have a 2nd hand howa in 223 and love it. I think the whole thing,Inc predator mod and Leupold scope was around £500. Very accurate, shoots thumbnail size groups at 100yds and not yet missed in anger (Touch wood!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 My howa hasn't let me down yet and is accurate as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Buy the cheapest that suits you,it`ll be worth peanuts when you come to sell it ! Rifles are as bad as gambling for losing cash ,lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 They'll be an idiot along in a minute to bash howas. I have 2 howas now and love them both. I've owned my .223 howa for almost 5 years after buying it second hand back then. I've shot well over a thousand rounds through it and I can place my shots within a 10mm grouping using my home loads at 112 yards. What more do I need ? I'm not going to denie a tikka is lovely but I haven't that sort of budget. I spend £500 on a scope in stead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 First rifle i ever stalked with a Howa in .243 with a button hole stock ,wasnt mine it was the guide,s but by eck a grand piece of kit grommit.Felt just right to carry ,balanced and sat nicely in the shoulder . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 When you have bought a SH CF and had to rebarrel it for £750 despite no signs of much use or barrel corrosion you will appreciate the value of buying new. I would not buy a SH CF after that experience, shotguns the oposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve d Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 They'll be an idiot along in a minute to bash howas. I have 2 howas now and love them both. I've owned my .223 howa for almost 5 years after buying it second hand back then. I've shot well over a thousand rounds through it and I can place my shots within a 10mm grouping using my home loads at 112 yards. What more do I need ? I'm not going to denie a tikka is lovely but I haven't that sort of budget. I spend £500 on a scope in stead. Sorry, but its not me this time.... Have a Howa 243 for Roe and love it, never let me down and shoots better than I ever will. Yes, you can spend 2 x the price of the Howa, but will it do a better job? I doubt it. Form over function has never held much sway with me and I know that when I do my bit, the end result is the missus moaning that she can hear the Williams fridge humming away in the garage while shes trying to sleep! I dont reload for it, I still use the same soft points that i did 8 yrs ago. I dont have a coronary if my pigeon cartridges have an average of 289 pellets instead of 290, I just worry about everything else in the equation, as it aint the gun/ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old melv Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Howa every time my son has one in .223 it's very accurate get the trigger sorted by someone who knows how to do it and you can't beat them for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 They'll be an idiot along in a minute to bash howas. I have 2 howas now and love them both. I've owned my .223 howa for almost 5 years after buying it second hand back then. I've shot well over a thousand rounds through it and I can place my shots within a 10mm grouping using my home loads at 112 yards. What more do I need ? I'm not going to denie a tikka is lovely but I haven't that sort of budget. I spend £500 on a scope in stead. howa's pahhh what you want is a savage in .243. like robs unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 howa's pahhh what you want is a savage in .243. like robs unicorn.lol Howa every time my son has one in .223 it's very accurate get the trigger sorted by someone who knows how to do it and you can't beat them for the price. The new ones don't need touching but I only paid £60 for my older howa to get the trigger lightened. Well worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 On a budget, new, it would be a Remmy or Howa .223 every time. The T3's imho are better made and have a far nicer action and trigger but you pay appreciably more for a new one. Used, it's a lot closer and if I were on the market used, it would be a T3 every time, or if you're really lucky, a nice Sako 75! They are tending to hold onto their values well at the moment. If buying anything used, my STRONG advice would be to get it bore-scoped first. Even those Chinese USB mini camera jobbies are better than nowt. I went on the word of someone who I thought I could trust when I bought my used 223 and ended up having to re-barrel it as the throat was badly pitted. There's some utter charlatans about (this one was in the trade, based Gloucester way). Can't go wrong with any of the choices mentioned above. One thing to add. Consider what you'll be shooting and over what range to ensure you get the twist rate you need. Most are 1/12 to 1/14 for shooting lighter bullets fast over 300 to 400 yards. They won't handle anything over a 55 or 60 grain bullet so accuracy wise, 400 to maybe 450 yards is your lot as the lighter bullets all have low BCs. Go to a 1/8 twist and that'll shoot everything from 50 grain to 80 grain bullets, so will make a great foxing rifle but will happily shoot with accuracy to 700 yards if you fancy some LR vermin bashing or hitting steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 For me the T3 is over priced and over rated I'd buy a Howa or Begarra the later would be my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I picked up from guntrader a good condition Rowa Titan 3 in 223 with predator 8 mod, Tesco scope and 40 rounds for £350. Accurate as anything else (within reason) and will always be worth that so long as I clean it. I think there is always someone suggesting to spend more, but shop around, you can always get a decent setup that'll suit your needs without a big investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I picked up from guntrader a good condition Rowa Titan 3 in 223 with predator 8 mod, Tesco scope and 40 rounds for £350. Accurate as anything else (within reason) and will always be worth that so long as I clean it. I think there is always someone suggesting to spend more, but shop around, you can always get a decent setup that'll suit your needs without a big investment. Tesco scope, every little helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just to mix it up look at the bergarra b14, some of the best barrels in the business and essentially a Remington action but made to much tighter tolerances and unbelievably smooth!! If you shop about you should find one for £600 brand new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I bought a 2nd hand .222 just before Christmas, the rifle itself was cheap, a nice little sako vixen for £300, but the moderator, screw cutting, glass and new rings along with rfd fees soon bumped the bill up and over £800 later I have a useable rifle. 2nd hand isn't always the way to go, not everyone is honest and you could be inheriting problems the previous owner neglected to tell you about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Would never buy a rifle at distance again,you need to have the bore inspected properly.Wish i had done this on the .223 i had,live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Tesco scope, every little helps Yep, it does... just as well be made by Tesco, but it does the job! (*tasco) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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