Twistedsanity Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I realise that a sword stick is illegal to have in a public place but wondered what the charge would be? Would it attract a 5 year knife sentence or be classed as an offensive weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I can, think of a reason for a normal person to want to carry one in public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 You would receive the full weight of the law and rightly so. Offensive weapon I would guess. As guzzicat says for what reason would anyone want or need yo carry one in public. I am that scared of mine its locked in the gunroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Ye gods; when oh when is this nation going to regrow its balls! They were designed for a reason and quite 'normal' people carried them for a specific reason. Why oh why have law abiding people grown to live in fear of actually protecting themselves or thinking that to do so is abnormal?! I despair at times, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Ye gods; when oh when is this nation going to regrow its balls! They were designed for a reason and quite 'normal' people carried them for a specific reason. Why oh why have law abiding people grown to live in fear of actually protecting themselves or thinking that to do so is abnormal?! I despair at times, I really do. Lol! Sad but true, I wasn't considering carrying one although I am looking to buy one, the ones I have seen haven't had live blades just a "pointy end to stick em with" which is why I wondered which legislation they fell under, quote fancy a walking stick gun as well :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 You can only legally own or trade in genuine antique sword sticks and they must not be taken into public places. Obviously transporting one home securely packaged would not (one would assume) be classed as carrying in a public place Ye gods; when oh when is this nation going to regrow its balls! They were designed for a reason and quite 'normal' people carried them for a specific reason. Why oh why have law abiding people grown to live in fear of actually protecting themselves or thinking that to do so is abnormal?! I despair at times, I really do. So your advocating we all arm ourselves with concealed weapons 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Ye gods; when oh when is this nation going to regrow its balls! They were designed for a reason and quite 'normal' people carried them for a specific reason. Why oh why have law abiding people grown to live in fear of actually protecting themselves or thinking that to do so is abnormal?! I despair at times, I really do. 50+ years of indoctrination to override the natural desire to preserve ones own life at all costs has taken its toll! Here is the CPS sentencing guide for knife type offences; http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 You'd have to be pretty unlucky to get caught for it though. You don't see the police randomly taking people's sticks apart to see if there's a blade inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) what the hell is a sword stick Edited July 6, 2017 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 what the hell is a sword stick Its a walking stick, the handle has a stiletoe blade which is hidden inside the hollowed out stick bit. It was used by gentry as a concealed defensive weapon couple of hundred years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Its a walking stick, the handle has a stiletoe blade which is hidden inside the hollowed out stick bit. It was used by gentry as a concealed defensive weapon couple of hundred years ago. oh bloody hell,who would be karting something like that around? i though it was a stick you use in martial arts as sort of long bamboo thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Its a walking stick, the handle has a stiletoe blade which is hidden inside the hollowed out stick bit. It was used by gentry as a concealed defensive weapon couple of hundred years ago.This ^^^^^^^^And very useful for cutting brambles on overgrown footpaths when walking dogs It's merely a blade inside a scabbard that doubles as a walking stick All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 50+ years of indoctrination to override the natural desire to preserve ones own life at all costs has taken its toll! Here is the CPS sentencing guide for knife type offences; http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/ That was my.point if you'll excuse the pun, is it a knife type weapon under.the law as the blade doesn't have an edge? Or.just an offensive weapon.such as a golf club or baseball bat if carried in public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 oh bloody hell,who would be karting something like that around? i though it was a stick you use in martial arts as sort of long bamboo thing. Exactly, try explaining having one in public to Mr plod 😞 I used to fence so have an interest in swords, I have an antique one that my father in law gave me. Its a nasty looking bit of kit I can assure you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Remember the law is not blade/edge specific, but refers to an article with a blade or point. That was my.point if you'll excuse the pun, is it a knife type weapon under.the law as the blade doesn't have an edge? Or.just an offensive weapon.such as a golf club or baseball bat if carried in public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Remember the law is not blade/edge specific, but refers to an article with a blade or point.That makes a bit more sense but a screwdriver/bradawl can have a point also so would that be treated the same? Or a large pair of scissors maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Remember the law is not blade/edge specific, but refers to an article with a blade or point. You mean like an umbrella or a stilletto heel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The difference is hat a sword stick is made for one purpose and one purpose only, it wont cut bread or screw a screw in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I would hope that unless carrying with a half sensible reason whichever charge came with the higher sentence would be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 That was my.point if you'll excuse the pun, is it a knife type weapon under.the law as the blade doesn't have an edge? Or.just an offensive weapon.such as a golf club or baseball bat if carried in public? There is no difference in law but if it makes you feel better there's this coverall section in the guidelines http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Not sure when the full weight of the law the law is used thats the problem we have 1000 pound fines for things then fine someone 20 quid Scully is right when is this country to regrow its balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 So you don't mind if folk carry sword sticks around town then. Were not necessarily talking about law abiding firearms cert folk but your average bloke. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 So you don't mind if folk carry sword sticks around town then. Were not necessarily talking about law abiding firearms cert folk but your average bloke. ??Depends on what their intention is, I drive a 3.2ton killing machine on the roads everyday but I've never used it in anger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 you miss the point if we society would have maintained a firm grip we would not need to be fussed with such things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Bought one off a bloke many years ago,it had 3 edges on the blade,and a very sharp point I might add.. He had a drop down 22 as well but would not sell it.. The blade when pulled out was about 3ft long,covered in black grease,made in france stamped on it.. When I moved Some lowlife stole it out my car,the boot was open while taking bits and bobs in.. Often wondered who it was.. Interesting pieces none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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