jagoisboss Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 hi guys i just need a bit of advice, i have a .22 hatsan striker 1000s. i shoot pigeons normally and i am having a bit of trouble killing them i have a good shot and i am hitting them either in the neck or head and do not seem to be killing them. they either need to have another shot to kill them or they fly off. i have tried using a couple of different pellets but it dose not seem to make a difference. i was looking on some advise on what pellets to use or just any more advice i can get. thank you and i will appreciate any advice you have got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Certainly a neck shot is a NO NO !! 99% chance you will just punch a hole through one of the pipes for the pigeon to fly away and die a very slow death. A solid headshot on a pigeon out to 35yrds should put it down. I use Exact Diablo 8.44gr 177s as advised and they kill cleanly both body and head from my TX200.Taking a head shot you need patience and wait for that perfect picture, sideways on, static. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoisboss Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Certainly a neck shot is a NO NO !! 99% chance you will just punch a hole through one of the pipes for the pigeon to fly away and die a very slow death. A solid headshot on a pigeon out to 35yrds should put it down. I use Exact Diablo 8.44gr 177s as advised and they kill cleanly both body and head from my TX200.Taking a head shot you need patience and wait for that perfect picture, sideways on, stati thank for the advice walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I also use the Diablo exact 8.44g's and find they are an excellent pellet. I'm also finding that the pellet is passing straight through at 30 metres meaning the pigeon is taking flight and crashing off a distance away unless it's a head or heart shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Are you certain that shot placement is accurate, its vet easy to pull a shot having had crosshairs bang on before and after the shot is taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 The OP is using a .22 so recommending 177 pellets wont help. I recommend AA DFs @ 16Gn. More importantly place shots to the heart/lungs for birds. Leave the headshots to squirrels and rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'd get a piece of A4 and draw round a 20p piece. At 30/35 metres take 5 shots .. all pellets should be within the circle drawn .. If not, don't shoot live quarry! ... If your not consistent for whatever reason, its the time to find out what's wrong before you go hunting again .. Shooter/Rifle/Pellet/Scope/Weather conditions etc all could be the problem .. best practice on A4 paper and fine tune things .. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'd get a piece of A4 and draw round a 20p piece. At 30/35 metres take 5 shots .. all pellets should be within the circle drawn .. If not, don't shoot live quarry! ... If your not consistent for whatever reason, its the time to find out what's wrong before you go hunting again .. Shooter/Rifle/Pellet/Scope/Weather conditions etc all could be the problem .. best practice on A4 paper and fine tune things .. Cheers And, added to that, check that you're comfortable with your angles. If you're shooting up at targets in trees or on buildings and wires, your aim point will change. Get confident in shooting in your required position - not where everything is stacked in your favour (wind, angle, daylight shooting position etc.) Let us know how you get on mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 The OP is using a .22 so recommending 177 pellets wont help. I recommend AA DFs @ 16Gn. More importantly place shots to the heart/lungs for birds. Leave the headshots to squirrels and rabbits. And your Hatsan is a springer? Definitely keep to body shots and 25 yard max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 And your Hatsan is a springer? Definitely keep to body shots and 25 yard max. And don't use a rest or bipod 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Have you had the gun over a chrono to see if its making decent power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Any pellet that hits a pigeon head or neck in the right place with over 4 fpe will kill it .so unless he is shooting at 120 yds his gun will have enough energy to kill the bird . The problem is shot placement . Not calibre or muzzle energy or retained energy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Chris is spot on . Elevated shots are tricky . The neck is pencil thin and snakes about in amongst all the feathers and is hard to hit .but very effective if you do .even a knick is fatal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I once shot a woody at maybe 15 meters and hit it in the chest area and it dropped off its perch dead on the floor. Hw35 22 and un be known to me 14ft/lb when I found out I soon fixed it, within 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 My 97k running at around 10.6ftlbs will drop pidgin and corvids all day long out to 30 yards with .22 AADF. As said it's all about accuracy and positivity, if you are afraid your going to fluff a shot youre more likely to. Have you done much live shooting? The anticipation and excitement can also effect pellet placement. Try and stay calm and slow your heart beat, get into the habit of shooting in between your beats. 0.1 mm in your chest equates to 3.5 mm at 35 m, that's the difference between a clean kill and a puff of feathers as the bird exits stage left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 The OP hasnt been on the forum since 31st Aug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I noticed that, no replies. Wonder if anyone's comments were of any help 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Take body shots you have more chance of hitting vitals. A .22 will cause some internal trauma and not pass through. Very rarely do I take headshots as the flapping around scares the others away for longer. Heart and lung shots they tend to fall without little or no flapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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