la bala Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Right, thats it then you bl@@?y lot, Tommorrow the vertical quench tank will turn into a horizontal one, I may just see if i can find an old compass to mount on it, dont want the bl@@dy North South wrong do we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Right, thats it then you bl@@?y lot, Tommorrow the vertical quench tank will turn into a horizontal one, I may just see if i can find an old compass to mount on it, dont want the bl@@dy North South wrong do we Another little pointer whilst fire welding is get some flat bar heat it up and lay on the anvil to heat the anvil up as when you're welding a cold anvil will draw heat from you billet making welding difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Thats what i like about this forum, people with a wealth of experience and willing to help, thanks guys. And the barter makes these jobs go much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Another little pointer whilst fire welding is get some flat bar heat it up and lay on the anvil to heat the anvil up as when you're welding a cold anvil will draw heat from you billet making welding difficult. Good tip although I prefer to heat the beck as I find the first few blows with the round face of the hammer have a swage effect just my preference Oops sorry he's got a new hammer (flat face ) and no beck on the rsj anvil 🙃☹️😞 Anyway crack on Point. Of interest quench tanks magnetic so probably not a good idea to fix your compass to it 👍🤣 And you lot that thought shot making was a dark art 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 i love all this making stuff lark......thats what we had to do back in the "old africa days"... whale oil...............you didnt tell me you've been carrying on with fat sarah ? There's more than enough to share 🤣😂🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Total ignoranamus here, but how do you go about getting the swirling / Damascus steel effect when working the steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Total ignoranamus here, but how do you go about getting the swirling / Damascus steel effect when working the steel? By turning and folding to entwine the different metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 By turning and folding to entwine the different metals. and then..wiping it with acid which eats into the "interfaces" where there is a colour change due to the composition of the metal at the folds/interfaces.............when continually "draw metal"...(pull it out ...stretch it the same way)...you loose the interfaces as the molercules start to line up the same way....high quality blades are done this way...a long process...wich can involve many many drawings....without burning the metal..... thats why i prefer to sandwich 3 pieces together...if i make a mistake on the outside ..the central part of the blade is still sound and it wont snap..........i will never have the skill to make a whole blade from folding and twisting and forging back together.........that takes years of practice...to produce a blade that is sound and stunning to look at.......... Bala will get there cause he has a good eye and mechanical skill........it is going to be fun to watch....and it will give other people the confidence to try....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thats sorted that out, Vertical quench tank to horizontal one , get hinge for the lid tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 looks like a saverloy smoker.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You DON'T smoke Saveloys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You DON'T smoke Saveloys! Ditchman smoked dynamite that's what blew his mind 😂🤣🤣💥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You DON'T smoke Saveloys! you do when they are bloody made....saverloys are very popular around here.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Ditchman smoked dynamite that's what blew his mind It didn't take much did it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 It didn't take much did it! go away.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Go and cut your hedge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Go and cut your hedge! this evening im totally stuffed............right down at the bottom of the garden is a large conifer and theb hedge goes under it.....and was looking sick..........reason.........it was full up with conifer needles....so all day i have been pressure washing the carp out of the hege onto the footpath............... 15 bloody barrow loads of needles...bloody hellfire............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Moan moan bloody moan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) this evening im totally stuffed............right down at the bottom of the garden is a large conifer and theb hedge goes under it.....and was looking sick..........reason.........it was full up with conifer needles....so all day i have been pressure washing the carp out of the hege onto the footpath............... 15 bloody barrow loads of needles...bloody hellfire............. Anyone would have thought you'd done a days work. Edited October 9, 2017 by E.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 So sorry op There dragging this down to gutter level Anyway well done on the quench tank hopefully it'll hold enough of your chosen fluid Back on track How's your hangover 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) So sorry op There dragging this down to gutter level Anyway well done on the quench tank hopefully it'll hold enough of your chosen fluid Back on track How's your hangover Hey Old farrier, Had a parcel of different grades of carbon steel today, need to practice with some mild steel this week . Hope to improve on last weeks fiasco . I am a little worried about ditchman Edited October 9, 2017 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Hey Old farrier, Had a parcel of different grades of carbon steel today, need to practice with some mild steel this week this week. Hope to improve on last weeks fiasco . I am a little worried about ditchman shd-upa-yer-face.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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la bala Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Disaster No 2. Made up a billet of five pieces of 40mm x 3mm mild steel, put each piece across the belt sander until shiny shiny. Before i welded each layer i coated it in a flux paste. I even tacked the billet down the sides. Ones of the lads suggested a hot anvil so i put the heater on my pocket anvil . Anyway billet in forge, out at yellow white, again someone suggested big strikes so big strikes it got, did i tell you my right shoulder is aching . I felt reasonably confident, but on returning it to the fire and seeing it side on i new it hadnt fused. I tried two more heats but i was just starting to draw it out. I have cut some cross sections to show you, thought these apple phones were supposed to take good pictures, sorry about quality. I may go out with the rifle for a couple of weeks and come back to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Oh dear, back to the drawing board! If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. Edited October 10, 2017 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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