bruno22rf Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Why get it tuned DukesArcher ? - the amount of money to have the work done is crazy in exchange for any tiny improvements over a Gun that is nigh on perfect out of the box. As for Daystate - you will never get a mutually agreeable answer simply because everybody has had different experiences with them - some people who own them will support the Marque simply because they believe that you need to pay for the best while others own an AA or HW and have saved a considerable sum on a Gun that it would be hard to improve. Personally I would never own another one as mine let me down once too often with sporadic accuracy issues and constant trips to a Gunsmith to remove stuck pellets - not acceptable on a gun that sold for a grand. Edited October 24, 2017 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I thought the super ten looked good. Not sure about the stocks on the new rifles, but they do seem good value. Only thing with BSA is that you have a 20% chance of getting a bad one. They suffer from the same problem as British car manufacturers in the 70s: anything made on Friday was a lemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Only thing with BSA is that you have a 20% chance of getting a bad one. They suffer from the same problem as British car manufacturers in the 70s: anything made on Friday was a lemon. hello, oh well i wonder what day mine was made never let me down in the 2 years i shot with it, i sold same price i paid and bought a FX vermy 22, it had a very rare full length nutt shot silencer, i sold this seperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 For the asking price Daystates are overhyped! £ for £ there are better rifle manufacturers .. Air Arms for one. Weihrauch for two ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I know AA have generally good reviews, though I really want a rifle with a high shot count, so ideally a buddy bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I like the look of the BSA r10 SE, but I want something that would be a decent rifle straight out of the box, and with a fairly high shot count. Don’t want to be lugging a divers tank around the countryside with me lol. The FX Royal looks to be a sweet looking rifle, but is it actually any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Surely cant be as bad as theoben with their rapid7, 17 etc. Does anyone own one that hasnt needed work doing on it ? I bought a used rapid some years ago. Closer inspection revealed it’d undergone some internal amateur ‘improvements’. After being stripped down and rebuilt and set up by somebody who knew what they were doing, it’s been great ever since. After handling an FX wildcat recently, I’m considering one in FAC power, would like to shoot one first though really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) How many shots do you imagine that you will need? - most people find 60-70 plenty, if not more than, enough - be interesting to ask all forum members how many times they have run out of air? With the exception of "branching" Rooks or a heavy Ratting session (and ,by God, you're glad of a break shooting Rats) I doubt that it's even a concern to experienced shooters. Edited October 24, 2017 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 How many shots do you imagine that you will need? - most people find 60-70 plenty, if not more than, enough - be interesting to ask all forum members how many times they have run out of air? With the exception of "branching" Rooks or a heavy Ratting session (and ,by God, you're glad of a break shooting Rats) I doubt that it's even a concern to experienced shooters. yup. You'd have to have one hell of a ratting session if you need to refill an R10 in 22. You get 230+ shots from a charge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airarms Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I got a second hand daystate harrier,ss,177.. I'm well happy with it!!! I wouldn't be able to buy new.so this is next best thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 How many shots do you imagine that you will need? - most people find 60-70 plenty, if not more than, enough - be interesting to ask all forum members how many times they have run out of air? With the exception of "branching" Rooks or a heavy Ratting session (and ,by God, you're glad of a break shooting Rats) I doubt that it's even a concern to experienced shooters. I've got a large and small buddy bottle supposed to be 150 and 301 shots, just buying a webley Axsor which is going to give around 80 shots, can't imagine running out of air on a normal session, but because there is no gauge on the buddy bottles it is easy to forget over a few weeks or months where your upto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) A shot count of 90 is the maximum. In truth I never run out of air when using my Air Arms s200. Shot counts of 300/400 etc are a totally waste of time. All your doing is lugging around your air cylinder in affect on your rifle .. I've a rifle with a 45 shot count, one with a 56, also one with 115 count ... Each too their own me thinks! ... My kind of air rifle hunting in the main is sort of a rough shooting stroll about the farms .. When the ratting swings in (when the weather cools down more!) .. If I need to top up a rifle my bottle is only a matter of a 20 second walk away .. I'm no lover of bottle pcp's much prefer cylinder type air tank pcp's. Edited October 24, 2017 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I like a high shot count as I like to have a good plinking session. 200 shots a time easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Daystate could well be for you in that case! ... Some have massive shot counts. Which comes in n handy, seeing as 180 bar is the start of the sweet spot till around 110 bar. So realistically your looking at 80 consistent and unregulated shots, from a 240 claimed shot count. Daystates always have nice stocks. Though I'd dip on calling them the Rolls Royce of air rifles, more Cadillac than Rolls .. Edited October 24, 2017 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Daystate could well be for you in that case! ... Some have massive shot counts. Which comes in n handy, seeing as 180 bar is the start of the sweet spot till around 110 bar. So realistically your looking at 80 consistent and unregulated shots, from a 240 claimed shot count. Daystates always have nice stocks. Though I'd dip on calling them the Rolls Royce of air rifles, more Cadillac than Rolls .. I’d expect more than 80 consistent shots for a BB rifle. I like the new regulated BSA though, and it looks to be a good rifle for the money. Whether it actually is, that is another story. I have come across a S/H BSA R10 MK2 that has been Ratworks tuned. Asking £700 with scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I’d expect more than 80 consistent shots for a BB rifle. I like the new regulated BSA though, and it looks to be a good rifle for the money. Whether it actually is, that is another story. I have come across a S/H BSA R10 MK2 that has been Ratworks tuned. Asking £700 with scope. Yes good guns pity the BSA company refuses to fit an anti double load mechanism into its design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yes good guns pity the BSA company refuses to fit an anti double load mechanism into its design. Could be a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Id expect more than 80 consistent shots for a BB rifle. I have come across a S/H BSA R10 MK2 that has been Ratworks tuned. Asking £700 with scope. I would be suspicious. They can't have had it for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I would be suspicious. They can't have had it for long. How come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I have a huntsman classic in .20 ,lovely rifle and no problems at all. I also use a AA 410 IN .177 for longer shots, but thats just because it shoots flatter. The Daystate is a much nicer gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I have a huntsman classic in .20 ,lovely rifle and no problems at all. I also use a AA 410 IN .177 for longer shots, but thats just because it shoots flatter. The Daystate is a much nicer gun. The Huntsman looks just like my SAKO. The stock anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) The Daystate is a much nicer gun.Why?Just curious, as an inexperienced air rifler. Edited October 24, 2017 by Mr.C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Check the vid on youtube - Daystate at the Midland game fair 2017-belas shooting the latest £1200+ Wolverine 2...at 1min 45 secs watch the Mag jump as the gun fires....sum ting wong here methinks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 How come? Test it. It might be a lemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 hello, i would never buy a Daystate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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