nnorman32 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Hi, Having little money now the season of buying stuff that people don't need for people you don't like approaches I thought I had a good deal where I got an older pump action Multichoke in px for my £75 Italian semi auto A5 copy but, the guy took a cash deal instead leaving me grumpy and looking around for a plan B. Once I get shot of my Franchi , my slightly pathetic budget is £200 which means i can have a Hatsan or an older Mossberg. This should be a no brainer in favour of the Mossberg but Hatsan seems to have ironed out the problems it had with earlier models, I'm not concerned about Brand names just reliability. Any thoughts.... (Getting shot of my Franchi is not a euphemism) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 I have had several Hatsan Escorts and still have one. They are great value and work wonderfully. There is an old cheap one coming up soon from a mate who is giving up. Whereabouts are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnorman32 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Hatsan pump is a brilliant gun in my limited experience. 5 year warranty, 5 chokes, and enough shims and things to ensure a good fit. All for £300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Had mossbergs in the past and never had a problem with them, if I had need of a pump action again it would be a Mossberg every time ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 What are you going to put through the pump gun? If steel I’d go for a modern one lie the hatsan or Winchester SXP which is made in turkey too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Franchi semi auto is a good gun and its never jammed,had a few hatsan semi auto and they all jammed as did the beretta and the mossberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnorman32 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Looking for a cheap pump action, true the semi auto has never jammed on me but it is long recoil - like a pogo stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, nnorman32 said: Looking for a cheap pump action, true the semi auto has never jammed on me but it is long recoil - like a pogo stick. I had a cheap pump action,it had the thickess barrell ever,look for Manufrance,well made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Mossberg would be for me hatsans dont care what they say are **** a lot of dealers here in N Irealand won't even take them as trade ins i know there be shooters on forum who will reply to this saying im wrong have seen 3 fowlers buying them then selling them after couple outing guns jamming etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 For your £200 budget you could get a decent Mossberg and a slab of cartridges, look through the various online search engines. I have had Hatsans and simply didn’t like them, no reason really, but I suppose I prefer older, American designs. The Hatsans I have had, autos and pumps had no more flaws than anything else really. If you go for a Mossberg, try for a 500 rather than 600 model. No great difference, but the 500 takes down better ( the slide is captive in the 600) Whatever you get , enjoy and post some pics on the pump club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 My mate has an old 12 g mossy . It comes out every now and then and surprises us how good it still is every time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz.man64 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 hours ago, impala59 said: For your £200 budget you could get a decent Mossberg and a slab of cartridges, look through the various online search engines. I have had Hatsans and simply didn’t like them, no reason really, but I suppose I prefer older, American designs. The Hatsans I have had, autos and pumps had no more flaws than anything else really. If you go for a Mossberg, try for a 500 rather than 600 model. No great difference, but the 500 takes down better ( the slide is captive in the 600) Whatever you get , enjoy and post some pics on the pump club Wabbitbosher should have something cheap and reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 +1 bosher if he hadn’t got one soon will if you want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 There's something lovely about a Mossberg 500\600. If you're not going to torture the poor thing then I'd go for one over a Hatsan. Own a couple of Hatsan's and never had an issue with either. I assume people either have older models that have flaws (and are at the root of "Hatsan's are unreliable") or don't treat them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagantino Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 The Mossberg is a classic for good reason, it's great gun. I use mine for Cowboy action and decoying pigeons. I wish it were a multichoke though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) I had an old Mossberg, I now have a 26" Hatsan which has always worked without issue it has an adjustable stock for decent gun fit and being a multiichoke it is much more versatile. Oh I forgot to mention it was £260 to order brand new from Avalon Guns in Street. Edited November 9, 2017 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 I bought an old Mossberg 600AT for under 100 quid at a local RFD, it was in excellent condition. Its now my go to pigeon gun and I have added a second barrel and a few other accessories it now looks like a new gun all for under 300 quid! I'll be using it at the PW pump club meet this Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Don't laugh My only 12 is the totally awesome savage Stevens mod79. Best £25 I've ever spent. Its so rough I couldn't part with it. Looking at buying another to have a matching pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, strimmer_13 said: Don't laugh My only 12 is the totally awesome savage Stevens mod79. Best £25 I've ever spent. Its so rough I couldn't part with it. Looking at buying another to have a matching pair Not Laughing Strimmer! I've had a few of these and still have one. I only moved the others on so as to concentrate my collection. Looked after, they are a solid, well made piece of kit and refinished they look great (some of them had some great wood) The fact that there are so many still around is testimony to their build quality and durability. The Savages and Stevens and Savage/Stevens models have quite a high rate of parts interchangeability and really only differ in the safety catch location. I have fettled these guns from abused, locked and jammed up wrecks to decent usable pieces that are still giving good reliable service. Cheap? yes at the moment but future classics? I'm sure of it! Post some pics of yours on the Pump Club thread Edited November 9, 2017 by impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Nothing wrong with Savage/Stevens pumps. A mate has had one for donkies years. Still gives good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I can't fault it. I do enjoy getting the ugly beaten up pig out and keeping up with the boys. But all in all its not about the looks it's about what fits, what works and what you 'click' with. I'll post some pics over the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Those savages did break on the corner of the for end link bar i had one 20 years ago did that, handled well and all steel construction was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, lancer425 said: Those savages did break on the corner of the for end link bar i had one 20 years ago did that, handled well and all steel construction was good. It could nearly be a baikal the way it's built. I've never taken it apart in the time I've owned it. Think 10 years. Most people would cry but if it ain' broke don't fix it. I'll ask the pump section too one day but seeing as there are a few owners on this thread is there any diagrams or step by step to strip the 79? Can't find any via google/youtube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Strip down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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