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12 hours ago, Sprackles said:

Rats of the sea.

I'd like to visit Donna Nook with a Hakapik :whistling:

 

55 minutes ago, yod dropper said:

We have thousands of them and it seems they're spreading further round the coastlines.  We've them at several sites now and over 2000 pups were born at one of them last year.  I wouldn't mind if we had a few less.  Every time nature tries to carry out its course and naturally control numbers they're rescued.

The seals aren't the problem, it's the 300,000,000 (300 million) humans in europe that is destroying the fish stocks.

There are only 300,000 grey seals worldwide, of which 150,000 live in europe.

A healthy seal population is a sign of a healthy fish stock population.

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39 minutes ago, Stonepark said:

 

The seals aren't the problem, it's the 300,000,000 (300 million) humans in europe that is destroying the fish stocks.

There are only 300,000 grey seals worldwide, of which 150,000 live in europe.

A healthy seal population is a sign of a healthy fish stock population.

Absaloutly spot on, it' always easier to blame something/someone else rather than look at home.

We do that alot as a race.

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54 minutes ago, Stonepark said:

 

The seals aren't the problem, it's the 300,000,000 (300 million) humans in europe that is destroying the fish stocks.

There are only 300,000 grey seals worldwide, of which 150,000 live in europe.

A healthy seal population is a sign of a healthy fish stock population.

Bear in mind we've just had a road completed where they'll be building another 37,000 homes around it, many of those people will wish to go to the coast.  We've fairly recently lost a beach to the seals and it's getting a bit crowded.  One of the bait diggers had his coat sleeve ripped by a seal whilst he was tending his crab traps, he was lucky not to get knocked over.  I don't think it will be too long before we have a seal/ human incident.   It isn't so much the fish as the space two rapidly growing populations have to live in.  There are similar issues with foxes, badgers and other animals.  Such as pigeons.

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1 hour ago, yod dropper said:

Bear in mind we've just had a road completed where they'll be building another 37,000 homes around it, many of those people will wish to go to the coast.  We've fairly recently lost a beach to the seals and it's getting a bit crowded.  One of the bait diggers had his coat sleeve ripped by a seal whilst he was tending his crab traps, he was lucky not to get knocked over.  I don't think it will be too long before we have a seal/ human incident.   It isn't so much the fish as the space two rapidly growing populations have to live in.  There are similar issues with foxes, badgers and other animals.  Such as pigeons.

So who' "fault" is it, the modest population of seals or the massively over crowed parts of the UK, over populated by humans, if we're not careful there'll be nothing left to see for future generations.

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39 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

So who' "fault" is it, the modest population of seals or the massively over crowed parts of the UK, over populated by humans, if we're not careful there'll be nothing left to see for future generations.

Well, I'd advocate culling seals before people.  Just like we do with other animals.  If it came to, the seals are doing well and are not under threat.

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Huge numbers here. Never known so many. Very popular with the tourists which brings even more people ( and money ) in to Norfolk.

The downside is the amount of fish they consume often prime white fish such as bass.  Numbers have gone through the roof over the last 15 years or so.

They used to be controlled by locals who used to make or supplement their living by catching fish. Those that fish commercially now are more focused on shell fish.

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Have a read of this article, the numbers are more than a drop in the ocean.

6 pups a season in the 70s to 1959 recorded last year and all this through the years of dwindling fish stocks.

Causing mayhem around our area for longliners and netters.

A cull is required.

http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/watch-more-1700-seals-descend-765810

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It was bandied about these parts a year ago that the bull seals were eating seal pups on May Island and along the Berwickshire coast, all fish having been eaten locally.  Dont blame trawlers as the few boats left here mainly target shellfish .   Since the annual cull on the Farne Islands was stopped many years ago- perhaps around  forty years the seal population has spread outwards north and west into the Firth of Forth.   Mackeral line boats and sea angling charters now find seals targeting the easy pickings of fish on lines , rather than hunt for themselves.  Perhaps disease will spring up when populations are so dense, otherwise a cull is long overdue.

 

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1 hour ago, Blackpowder said:

 It was bandied about these parts a year ago that the bull seals were eating seal pups on May Island and along the Berwickshire coast.....

.....Perhaps disease will spring up when populations are so dense, otherwise a cull is long overdue.

Blackpowder

This is one of our problems.  When they become ill, or the young are separated after a storm the seal rescue lot are out gathering them in so nature cannot take its course.  We had the same issue as Blackpowder said about the bull seals and the official bodies were coming up with all manner of explanations that were palatable rather then the ones you'd imagine they didn't want to believe.

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2 minutes ago, Blackpowder said:

An increase in killer whales would be good, apparently they are fond of a bit of sammy seal.

 

Blackpowder

Ah, but only if they are from a mammal eating culture/sub-species. From what I have seen and read, those of the Icelandic/Norwegian/Eastern North Atlantic populations are herring eaters

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3 minutes ago, Blackpowder said:

Didnt know that now, but I am sure I have heard of some predation in Firth of Forth, which may have been mere harbourside  gossip and speculation.

Blackpowder

If there is a niche to be filled and all that.

 

You could well be right.

http://uk.whales.org/wdc-in-action/meet-different-types-of-orca

 

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