grrclark Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Always going to be a topic that polarises opinion. My thinking is very much along the same lines as Thunderbird on this, which is taking a practical and common sense view. Sometimes things happen with kids that mean a parent cannot get in to work, much the same as someone might be ill and cannot come into work, but those are exceptional events. As an employer I was always sympathetic towards the exceptional events, but on the handful of occasions it become more regular, as Lloyd described, then it was a different approach. The time off was deducted from holidays and then taken unpaid when holidays were exhausted. Understandably, for a parent the child is the absolute priority, but that does not make it OK for parents to have a dismissive attitude to their employer, regrettably however this is quite often the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 My thoughts, family comes first. However, someone obviously taking the mickey should be spoken to>placed on formal management>sacked if really necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Has anyone actually spoken to the lady about this - or is it just all conjecture about what should be done? Who knows it may well be for genuine reasons she has no childcare some days (such as the child minder or carer is taking the **** with her) is she keeping up with payments or in trouble hence care held back? Do yourselves a favour and find out what is the cause first - then look at the next stage. Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 28 minutes ago, Pushkin said: Has anyone actually spoken to the lady about this - or is it just all conjecture about what should be done? Who knows it may well be for genuine reasons she has no childcare some days (such as the child minder or carer is taking the **** with her) is she keeping up with payments or in trouble hence care held back? Do yourselves a favour and find out what is the cause first - then look at the next stage. Pushkin She (and other members of staff) regularly take time off like this and due to “sickness”, then come in and tell everyone what a great time off they’ve had on holiday / away for the weekend. Im a bit hard presssed to feel sorry for some of them and “their struggles” ... Its not like they work for some big evil private firm, every member of the NHS / Council doing stuff like this is taking money that would otherwise be used to meet peoples genuine needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Report post Posted 17 minutes ago 48 minutes ago, Pushkin said: Has anyone actually spoken to the lady about this - or is it just all conjecture about what should be done? Who knows it may well be for genuine reasons she has no childcare some days (such as the child minder or carer is taking the **** with her) is she keeping up with payments or in trouble hence care held back? Do yourselves a favour and find out what is the cause first - then look at the next stage. Pushkin She (and other members of staff) regularly take time off like this and due to “sickness”, then come in and tell everyone what a great time off they’ve had on holiday / away for the weekend. Im a bit hard presssed to feel sorry for some of them and “their struggles” ... Its not like they work for some big evil private firm, every member of the NHS / Council doing stuff like this is taking money that would otherwise be used to meet peoples genuine needs. Lloyd90 - Why hasn't her/their manager dealt with this face to face or have they and it has not been effective? The only way to stop soemone taking the urine is to deal with it up front and state their reasons for such behaviour are unacceptable (Especially the part about being away on holiday and having a great time.) The manager needs to nip that in the bud and if unable or not competent to do so then they should be asking for support from own line manager or HR direct. By not doing so it allows this to go on and lessens their position and credibility to manage them appropriately. Going down that road is ineffective and all employees will start to walkover them. Help them out by letting them know. Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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