marsh man Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Strange one , Our garage have no other access apart from using the up and over door. Today when I closed it I thought something had dropped behind the inside top because I could no longer open it from the outside , I took the brick out from where a previous letter box was so I could see inside , nothing was blocking it but one of the arms that go from the handle to the top catch had come apart so the top catch on one side is stuck closed with no way of getting inside to free it. All my tools are inside the garage so the only thing I could think of was cutting a hole in the brick work with my brothers hammer and chisels so I can crawl in and then bricking it back up once the inside arm have been repaired. If any garage doors installers are on the forum or anybody who knows about the doors I am talking about , What would be your actions please, or with me being a ex brick layer would my way be the cheapest way out as I don't want to damage the door. THANKS for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W FOX Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 If this engages with the top only ie. locking bar into latch. it is possible to put a garden spade between the top of the door and the lintel where the latch is and lever down very gently the door will pop open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Can you see the locking catch on the door trru the gap between the door and the frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, B&W FOX said: If this engages with the top only ie. locking bar into latch. it is possible to put a garden spade between the top of the door and the lintel where the latch is and lever down very gently the door will pop open 1 minute ago, Rupert said: Can you see the locking catch on the door trru the gap between the door and the frame Thanks for your reply ........From the outside all I can see is a galvanised strip between the top of the door and the door frame , and no Rupert I cant see any locking catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 best plan on info provided, remove galv strip to expose locking catch use strong flat implement to lever down catch .Pictures would be helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Rupert said: best plan on info provided, remove galv strip to expose locking catch use strong flat implement to lever down catch .Pictures would be helpful THANKS Rupert , I will have a look in the morning to see how the strip is fitted , we have only been in the bungalow for a few months so I am not sure about the door instalment but up to now every thing on it have worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 sticks of TNT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Get a quote from Burnley Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear-uk Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 The galv strip is possibly pop riveted to the door to stop the lock from being visible. Your best bet is to get rough with it with that hammer and chisel you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 27 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: Get a quote from Burnley Dave Ah be careful there, only do this if you have a new one in the cellar ready to fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) When you lever it down so far you’ll see it’s tapered towards the top and a quick push at that point should have it open in no time. On garage doors with no other opening I’ve had them with a separate lock in the door and attached to the lock was a string you could pull to open the catch in case of failure. To be honest if you not mechanical minded in removing rivets fiddling the catch open and then re riveting the strip back on, going through the wall is probably quicker for you. Edited December 6, 2017 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Morning All ...... Many thanks to all the kind people who offered advice , I started at the top of the list first who was B&W FOX and after putting a spade in and levering the door down , hey presto it was open . So thanks again and your help was much appreciated . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm always amazed at the amount of knowledge on Here, it doesn't matter what it's about, from garage doors to whats this strange item/antient artifact there's always someone who knows about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W FOX Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Invoice in the post from the technical help desk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, B&W FOX said: Invoice in the post from the technical help desk THANKS ....... My cheque will also be in the post first thing in the morning , when you down this way , the next round is on me . Merry Christmas to you and your family . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumfelter Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 You'll all be convicted of aiding and abetting when he gets caught! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 13 hours ago, marsh man said: Morning All ...... Many thanks to all the kind people who offered advice , I started at the top of the list first who was B&W FOX and after putting a spade in and levering the door down , hey presto it was open . So thanks again and your help was much appreciated . 3 hours ago, stumfelter said: You'll all be convicted of aiding and abetting when he gets caught! ?? Which just shows how feeble garage doors are, thinking a big padlock might be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 hours ago, Mice! said: Which just shows how feeble garage doors are, thinking a big padlock might be needed. True. Some time back tealeaves accessed my garage with the shovel method. I fitted two drop bolts, one each side of the door, which key into the concrete hard standing. Each padlocked with same-key locks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bobba said: True. Some time back tealeaves accessed my garage with the shovel method. I fitted two drop bolts, one each side of the door, which key into the concrete hard standing. Each padlocked with same-key locks. I have virtually the same, but the locks are integrated with the bolts and fitted internally with only a keyhole on the outside. They are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 44 minutes ago, Bobba said: True. Some time back tealeaves accessed my garage with the shovel method. I fitted two drop bolts, one each side of the door, which key into the concrete hard standing. Each padlocked with same-key locks. 38 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I have virtually the same, but the locks are integrated with the bolts and fitted internally with only a keyhole on the outside. They are very good. Well worth considering and thanks for the advice , prevention is better than cure . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have locks similar to these https://www.locksonline.co.uk/Asec-Garage-Door-Lock.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have those type of locks, they are very good. They also prevent the bottom corners of the door being peeled up and access gained that way. Standard doors are very weak normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 8 December 2017 at 10:11, Medic1281 said: I have those type of locks, they are very good. They also prevent the bottom corners of the door being peeled up and access gained that way. Standard doors are very weak normally. Agreed. Which is why I placed a drop lock on each side of the door to (try) and prevent the corners being peeled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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