powderhorn Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Hi Guys, Could any of you 410 reloading enthusiasts please give me a bit of advice. I currently reload 410's using various powders but all with Cheddite CX50 primers. I am running low on these primers and it has been suggested to me that CCI 209 primers could be a suitable alternative. The Cheddite CX50 is a "cool" primer so any info regarding the suitability (or not) of the CCI 209 would be greatly appreciated as I know that 410 reloading recipes can be very specific. Thanking you for your help in this query. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 clay and game or folkstone engineering give them a bell they might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) As above, Folkston Eng., suggest the Fiocchi 215, Clay & Game I believe use the Cheddite. The 209s you refer to where the 'standard' primer way back when and would be a good alternative in my mind. John at Folkston is very helpful. I use his recipe for felt wads in my 410 reloads and they are spot on. What powder/weight, shot/load ? Edited December 11, 2017 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I use 209s and have done for a long time, no problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Common sense would suggest fiocchi 614-615 or cx50-cx 1000 with the seconds being the hotter. 209 should be a hell of a lot hotter so, unless you have a load optimise for that, the change will increase pressure and throw random patterns. Yet, everyone is free to do as they see fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 never loaded 410 only 12g,but from 1oz- 11/2 oz loads only ever used 209,s with f/w and p/w so they must be quite versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, no, not quite as simple as that. Smaller bore tend to increase pressure exponentially. If 209 (or 616 or cx2000) have many applications on 12 bore, that doesn't necessarily make them good for .410. it's the power of the primer combined with the powder in the relevant gun bore that dictates what's good and what's not. It's all a matter of physics not guesswork Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhorn Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Many thanks to everyone who replied to my query. As suggested, I will contact Folkstone Engineering and Clay&Game and ask their advice. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) Derek! Are you loading 65mm or 73mm cases? I can let you have a fair few primed ones free of charge together with some CX50 primers....again free of charge....you've done enough favours for me in the past! Another little 'trick' is to use Eley 1B or, I should use the 'new' name from the 1960s, lol, the Eley Surefire Primer. These are used in battery cups from Eley after the 1970s explosion. Again, I can give you a fair load of these, together with quite a few battery cups....THAT YOU MUST NOT DISCARD! As you need them over and over again! if you come down here, you can also take Bob these 12g rolled turnover game 6 that have been languishing here! Best wishes! Alan. Edited May 27, 2018 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Derek, Need any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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