getthegat Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Possibly a silly question, but can I shoot wildfowl, mallards, teal, Canada's etc or do I need a specific licence. One of my shoots has a marsh on the edge of it which leads into a decent size tidal river. I've just discovered it has an attraction for ducks and geese. I know I need steel shot, but can I legally shoot the above birds? It would seem to be a waiting game, with a large element of luck, not at all like pigeons or corvid shooting, but on a nice crisp morning, with warm thermals, gloves etc it has a certain appeal and the dog seems to like sitting watching the local wildlife fly by as well. She's getting a coat for Christmas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 No license required. You would obviously need permission if you were wanting to shoot on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, motty said: No license required. You would obviously need permission if you were wanting to shoot on the marsh. Correct Unlike our neck of the woods Motty there is plenty of Private Marsh's around there also the Swale Medway and Thames estuary KWA ain't got it ALL yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getthegat Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) KWA? Lost me on that one. The farmer is ok with me shooting said wildfowl and I'd hope to get them flighting over the fields rather than the marsh. Not sure if the dog will retrieve from water yet, she's only just started retrieving pigeons. If I was to move into the marsh (bogg, aka toilet; yeah I get that one) would I need permission from some other body? Also is a long barrelled heavy choked gun preferable? I have a Franchi Affinity with interchangeable chokes but only 27" barrel, always thought "duck guns" were 36" monsters? Edited December 17, 2017 by getthegat Incorrect spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsorense Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, getthegat said: KWA? Lost me on that one. The farmer is ok with me shooting said wildfowl and I'd hope to get them flighting over the fields rather than the marsh. Not sure if the dog will retrieve from water yet, she's only just started retrieving pigeons. If I was to move into the marsh (bogg, aka toilet; yeah I get that one) would I need permission from some other body? Also is a long barrelled heavy choked gun preferable? I have a Franchi Affinity with interchangeable chokes but only 27" barrel, always thought "duck guns" were 36" monsters? Any 12b will do the job providing its steel proofed and you dont want too much choke for steel or you will wreck your gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, getthegat said: KWA? Lost me on that one. The farmer is ok with me shooting said wildfowl and I'd hope to get them flighting over the fields rather than the marsh. Not sure if the dog will retrieve from water yet, she's only just started retrieving pigeons. If I was to move into the marsh (bogg, aka toilet; yeah I get that one) would I need permission from some other body? Also is a long barrelled heavy choked gun preferable? I have a Franchi Affinity with interchangeable chokes but only 27" barrel, always thought "duck guns" were 36" monsters? No permission required if land is not on an SSSI. Edited December 17, 2017 by lancer425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Getthegat. KWA is Kent Wildfowlers Association. Who have a rep for taking Shooting it was in know way a Dig at yourself in fact totally the opposite. Just be careful posting where and what you have. As for Gun's i shoot 90% of Inland Geese and Duck with a 1oz Steel through a 20ga. My advice use the Gun you shoot with Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Be wary about letting your dog have long water retrieves if he has never swum before. Its best done when the weather is warm , but get your dog used to splashing about in shallow water first. The first long swim in icy clod water may put him off water for life unless he is used to it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getthegat Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Great advice, many many thanks. Duly noted 6.5x55SE about the where and what, I can be a bit too open and trusting or should that be dim? And anser2 I wont be letting Sophie go diving into an icy cold smelly old marsh, with who knows what sort of sticky mud or hidden debris and if she goes home in a mess the missus would kick us both back out into the cold. She seems to have no issues with water, but not being a water dog breed, she soon gets cold and I'm too much of a softy where she's concerned. Didn't know about the tight choke thing with steel shot, more great info. I'm thinking of 32gram #4 with my Franchi or perhaps bring out my sxs AYA. Cheers again. Oh! Anyone got a couple of duck decoys going cheap ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 hours ago, gsorense said: Any 12b will do the job providing its steel proofed and you dont want too much choke for steel or you will wreck your gun. Not necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy baxendale Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, motty said: Not necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 hours ago, getthegat said: Great advice, many many thanks. Duly noted 6.5x55SE about the where and what, I can be a bit too open and trusting or should that be dim? And anser2 I wont be letting Sophie go diving into an icy cold smelly old marsh, with who knows what sort of sticky mud or hidden debris and if she goes home in a mess the missus would kick us both back out into the cold. She seems to have no issues with water, but not being a water dog breed, she soon gets cold and I'm too much of a softy where she's concerned. Didn't know about the tight choke thing with steel shot, more great info. I'm thinking of 32gram #4 with my Franchi or perhaps bring out my sxs AYA. Cheers again. Oh! Anyone got a couple of duck decoys going cheap ?? If you are in Leigh on Sea, then join that club which is part of KWA. You may well have permission on the land, but the marsh might be part of Leigh's land. You seem new to it so learn the quarry first and joining the Leigh Wildfowlers will help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 If it's not Leigh's ground and you have permission from the land owner, I would be happy to come along(with dog, no gun) and give you some pointers? You are only down the road from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getthegat Posted December 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Cool. I'll let you know. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy george Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Penelope said: If it's not Leigh's ground and you have permission from the land owner, I would be happy to come along(with dog, no gun) and give you some pointers? You are only down the road from me. Good offer Paul, I was going to offer my services if not. Not that my services would be good to anybody Edited December 18, 2017 by landy george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Penelope is a good one, and will see you ok. All the best and welcome to fowling, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, getthegat said: Cool. I'll let you know. Thanks everyone. Drop me a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) if the river is the boundry of your permission you will need to be careful where your shot lands/falls Edited December 19, 2017 by andrewluke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, andrewluke said: if the river is the boundry of your permission you will need to be careful where your shot lands/falls Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 It would take some proof and is picky, but been there before with a non shooting boundry and was told by BASC at the time, all projectiles fired from your land should terminate fall inside your boundry, which if you have dealings with any rifle is obvious. So this is possibly what he is pointing towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Konnie said: It would take some proof and is picky, but been there before with a non shooting boundry and was told by BASC at the time, all projectiles fired from your land should terminate fall inside your boundry, which if you have dealings with any rifle is obvious. So this is possibly what he is pointing towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) can me and my mates come down an show you how to go on? we can come down in the camper vans and stop for the weekend and have a barby and a few beers and some gears ! get back by PM Edited December 21, 2017 by derbyduck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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