nnorman32 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Hi. Having difficulty hitting a cows **** with a cricket bat at the moment. I am right in thinking that cutting the end of a fixed choke and removing the choked section will make the new barrel a wider choke ie: full choke to cylinder? Also has anyone had a gunsmith do this and a rough idea of cost? This would seem a cheaper option than having chokes fitted? Cheers N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Before you start to destroy your gun, get someone to check the fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 wouldent it be better to have chokes opened up when I thought of having this done think it was £30 for each choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, nnorman32 said: Hi. Having difficulty hitting a cows **** with a cricket bat at the moment. I am right in thinking that cutting the end of a fixed choke and removing the choked section will make the new barrel a wider choke ie: full choke to cylinder? Also has anyone had a gunsmith do this and a rough idea of cost? This would seem a cheaper option than having chokes fitted? Cheers N. Is this a joke? How on earth did you arrive at this position? Sawing the barrels off to remove choke!? Why?..............Before butchering the gun, I suggest you get some professional advice! It's more likely to be you that is responsible for your poor marksmanship.......not the gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnorman32 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Hello Many apologies to PW for my language. This not a joke, simply a question as stated in the title about a gunsmith re crowning and shortening a barrel to open up the choke. The idea of posting on the forum was so that suggestions, ideas and views on this particular issue could be be exchanged. N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 You don’t need to cut the end off to open it up. Before that, do you even know what the current chokes are? I suspect not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 If you need more open chokes get them reamed out by a competent smith. Surely a much better/cheaper /less destructive option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen tiger Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I would leave it full choke, not hitting with the full choke there is more than choke constriction wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 We don't crown shotguns for a start. To open up a choke we ream out the choke to the desired dimension. Now as to not hitting anything I doubt it's all to do with choke and probably more to do with gun fit and ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 All of the above; if you’re missing it won’t be because the gun is choked wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Possibly just a simple matter of not being able to shoot. Nothing too bad about that at all, you are in a club that out numbers the good shooters about 1000 - 1. Before you start to alter anything material you need to start with your head, book some coaching lessons and see now they go 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnorman32 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Thank you for your reply's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Please remeber if you alter the barrel by cutting it .you will have to keep the gun for ever or destroy it if you don't want to keep it. The only option open to u if you ever want to sell it would be to have the gun reproofed at your cost .with no guarantee that it would pass . I wouldn't have the gun cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Well yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 53 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Please remeber if you alter the barrel by cutting it .you will have to keep the gun for ever or destroy it if you don't want to keep it. The only option open to u if you ever want to sell it would be to have the gun reproofed at your cost .with no guarantee that it would pass . I wouldn't have the gun cut. Would it require reproofing prior to selling it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 You can ‘gift’ or ‘give’ an out of proof or unproved gun; it is only an offence to sell one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Blimey the Ministry of misunderstanding would be proud of you lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 But is a shotgun barrel rendered out of proof by shortening it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Had the same problem with my gun so chopped a few inches off the barrel. Did it myself with a hacksaw and filed the ends square. Completely transformed the gun and I can hit most stuff with it now even at ranges that surprise me. This was probably 30 years ago and I still have the gun and can still hit things with it. Gun was worth very little before hand and that hasn't changed much as a result of my modifying (or butchering and you lot call it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 I fail to see how shortening a shotgun barrel ( or a rifle barrel for that matter ) can take it out of proof. What are you proofing? The but that remains is unchanged and the bit you removed is no longer there, so what is there to proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Shorting any barrel does not materially weaken it as the material is not there. Reaming out a choke doesnt weaken the barrel as it reduces the pressure Edited December 23, 2017 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, J D Hunter said: Interesting.., care to elaborate on your interpretation/understanding of information that a shotgun isn't rendered out of proof by shortening it? We're here to learn and/or share afterall As Daf and Scully have said above, if you take away a piece of the barrel completely it does not alter the proof as you cannot test what you have removed, but if you remove metal from the barrels, i.e. you ream out a choke it should be reproofed before selling. Hence shortening a barrel within the usual constraints, min 24" barrel is not a proofing matter! Edited December 23, 2017 by TIGHTCHOKE Making it easy to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 14 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: but if you remove metal from the barrels, i.e. you ream out a choke it should be reproofed before selling. If you believe this; there are a lot of gunmakers and gunsmiths in this country who are regularly breaking the law concerning the rules of proof !. While some forms of barrel work does require re-proof, regulating or easing the chokes is not classed as structually weakening the barrel(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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