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Wonder just how much of a bump it would take to fire the round off as the firing pin spring is keeping the pressure on the primer. I’d have thought it would have to be slammed muzzle first into something to use the weight of the pins inertia or drip the rifle butt first from a great height to overcome the springs tension to move enough to fire. 

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2 minutes ago, jam1e said:

I certainly wouldn't do it that way. But having said that. Right or wrong i chamber a round, apply the safety, and be very aware of muzzle safety.

Absolutely. One up the spout and good muzzle and trigger awareness. 

 Its ruined my evening to think there's people out there wandering about with the firing pin resting on the primer. Mental. 

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Plenty saying it’s daft or stupid. Anyone got any evidence of a round being fired off doing this? 

Something might look wrong and it may well be wrong but sometimes can be right no matter how it looks. 

A gun with firing pin cocked and safety on isn’t safe as it’s just waiting under compression to  be released to fire the round. 

Cant see how an uncocked in forward position firing pin could fire off a round.

could someone explain how it could fire the round please. 

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1 minute ago, figgy said:

Plenty saying it’s daft or stupid. Anyone got any evidence of a round being fired off doing this? 

Something might look wrong and it may well be wrong but sometimes can be right no matter how it looks. 

A gun with firing pin cocked and safety on isn’t safe as it’s just waiting under compression to  be released to fire the round. 

Cant see how an uncocked in forward position firing pin could fire off a round.

could someone explain how it could fire the round please. 

A rifle with one up the spout is safe as rifles are built to be carried that way, you can rely upon them to not go off. The safety is a bonus. 

 The decocked option is crazy because it leaves the firing pin in the fired position actually pressing into the primer for the whole duration of time you're carrying it. Any violent jolt to the gun could potentially create enough pressure to make the rifle function. 

 This deadbolting thing is a variation of carrying the rifle without a round in the chamber. Just get one up the spout with the rifle cocked and don't pull the trigger. Simples. 

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The amount of force needed to set a chambered round off when dead-bolted would vary depending on firing pin length/spring tension, amount of force applied and primer wall thickness  (have some of you actually seen how thin some primer walls actually are?).  Asking whether there's any evidence to support it being unsafe is a little like asking for evidence of people you know killed by playing Russian Roulette!  No-one in their right minds would play Russian Roulette so why do it with a loaded firearm? 

It's a dangerous practice full stop as it removes any intrinsic safety from the equation and whether a round goes off is likely dependant upon variables which no user has a hope of defining before hand.

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Anyone who’s ever hunted in a country like Africa will tell you how stupid this practice is.

Heat makes metal expand. Chamber a round and deadbolt your rifle in the morning before the sun has got up. By the heat of mid day BANG!!!!!

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On 03/01/2018 at 01:13, zipdog said:

Anyone who’s ever hunted in a country like Africa will tell you how stupid this practice is.

Heat makes metal expand. Chamber a round and deadbolt your rifle in the morning before the sun has got up. By the heat of mid day BANG!!!!!

If heat caused metal to expand that much a gun would never function in hot countries !

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Many ex squaddies of the  Enfield .303 era will remember this.

You only had to pull the bolt head back prior to firing the gun.   Very quick when ambushed etc.   I was taught it, rightly or wrongly, way back in about 1950.   Just after the second world war.  Don't think we shot many of our own troops back in that little bit of nastiness...

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On 05/01/2018 at 21:03, wildrover77 said:

If heat caused metal to expand that much a gun would never function in hot countries !

When American’s and English go across with their hair triggers the first thing they are told to do is heavy them up. Otherwise they will go off on their own due to the heat.........

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