Winston72 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Not looking to start a row but this maybe of interest to some of you https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Never going to happen, and rightly so. As much as there are a few individuals who deserve such punishment, whilst ever there is a chance of executing the wrong person it can't be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchthepigeonmutley Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Danger-Mouse said: ...whilst ever there is a chance of executing the wrong person it can't be allowed. My feeling too, the legal system is by no means infallible. It didn't seem to be much of a deterrent when we had it, and doesn't seem to be so in the US either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Waste of time time thankfully not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I don’t regard it as a deterrent, more as an insurance against repeat offending. I’m all for it, but totally aware it’ll never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, catchthepigeonmutley said: My feeling too, the legal system is by no means infallible. It didn't seem to be much of a deterrent when we had it, and doesn't seem to be so in the US either. Cuts down on second offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all. 833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, guzzicat said: Cuts down on second offenders. Yes also cuts down on people being freed after evidence comes to light, sometimes after years to prove their innocence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Historically there has been errors in the system. Where the evidence is certain then i'm all for it. I'd bring back hanging tomorrow especially for those repeat offenders. I'd even show it on Sky Sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 In principle I support capital punishment under certain circumstances, but.....with past examples of suspects being "fitting up" and the latest revelations of cases being chucked out because of non disclosure of evidence by the prosecution........bringing it back would be too risky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 The prisons are already stuffed to overflowing with 'innocent' people.......You only need ask some of them if they are guilty or not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I personally agree with capital punishment but because of wrongdoing in the past it would have to for certain murders ie the killers of Lee rigby caught in the street filmed and there is no way of a mistaken identity mass murderers ie the terrorists on London Bridge caught with knives stabbing innocent bystanders this sort of murder I do believe there is murder and a different kind of murder if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) I’d bring it back tomorrow, along with total castration with a sharp knife. But only if they were found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt!!! Edited February 1, 2018 by Delwint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Delwint said: I’d bring it back tomorrow, along with total castration with a sharp knife. But only if they were found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt!!! The burden of proof in a criminal case is already 'beyond all reasonable doubt' As others have mentiond, it dosent seem to have stoped previous miscarages of justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Delwint said: I’d bring it back tomorrow, along with total castration with a sharp knife. But only if they were found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt!!! All criminal convictions are suppose to guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, that doesn't mean they are guilty. Edited February 1, 2018 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Whilst some will trot out the miscarriage of justice reasoning, is there anyone who would object to capital punishment for example - Myra Hindley, Ian Brady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Pierrepoint's autobiography makes an interesting read, even he had doubts at the end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Whilst some will trot out the miscarriage of justice reasoning, is there anyone who would object to capital punishment for example - Myra Hindley, Ian Brady? These two would have qualified as the in "certain circumstances" to which I referred in my posting! Edited February 1, 2018 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Whilst some will trot out the miscarriage of justice reasoning, is there anyone who would object to capital punishment for example - Myra Hindley, Ian Brady? So you don't have a issue with innocent people being executed by the state. And yes i would object to it for anyone, i would support life without parole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 After the recent case of the young man accused of rape, despite the police having loads of evidence he 100% did not do it, and the police still trying to prosecute him for the crimes, does anyone have faith in the justice system to make decisions of this magnitude?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 "I like the idea of hanging" but rather a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man hangs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 no chance in this nanny state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I am totally for it’s return along with public birching. Branding and other deterrents. Think of the cost saving to the tax payer. All the youths who have never been chastised and think they can do as they please wouldn’t do it a second time. Murderers who are bang to rights guilty deserve it. As for the odd one who didn’t do it is a life sentence any better. Look at war inocents have always been casualties but it’s accepted as par for the course. Others won’t agree with my views but I don’t care. We all have an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Quote along with public birching. All the youths who have never been chastised and think they can do as they please wouldn’t do it a second time. Totally agree, don't think many have been back for it twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, figgy said: As for the odd one who didn’t do it is a life sentence any better. . Ask the Birmingham Six. I'm pretty sure they were happy they weren't executed. A life sentence can always be repealed but it's pretty hard to mend a broken neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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