Brad93 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Hi all. Had my Anschutz for about a year now. Never really shot further than 100 yards. I’ve recently got a Rangefinder to start shooting a bit more accurately at longer ranges, but I can’t get the rifle to group >100 yards. I’m shooting Hornady 17gn .17HMR Vmax Red Tips. At 100 yards is pretty good. See first image. Gave it two clicks up two clicks to the left, see second image. But extend that to 120-130 yards and the group really opens up. Now I admit I’ve only got a 14” barrel Annie and a cheap Hawke Endurance 3.5-10x50, but should the group really open up that much!? I’m shooting off outdoor connection beanbags and feel pretty stable. Perhaps it’s parallax or I’m pulling the shot slightly. Or the barrel doesn’t like being shot warm? Dare not extend the range any further it might look like a shotgun pattern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 If they`re 1" bulls ,it`s notthat bad tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Yep those are 1” shoot’n’see stickers Just tried a different moderator, a SAK. Even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Have you tried it minus a moderator ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 No, horses in the field next door so didn’t want to make it any louder. I might take a little more out of the stock on the left side as you can only just slide a piece of paper under the barrel. Im going to give the barrel another good clean. It had about 40 rounds through it today. 8 first rounds were from a bad batch (purple tips). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 An inch at 100 yards is about average for any HMR in my experience. 1moa is fairly decent for mass produced factory loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 The problem you may have is probably born from the mount of fairy tales you read on the internet. You 're led to believe that the HMR will shoot a gnats danglies off at 150 yards. But what you have found is that in the real world it's basically a load of tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Yep, I am constantly hitting that gnat's legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Have you no respect for your quarry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Got the same rifle but with an 18” barrel. I’d say I get 2” groups at 150 yards. Have played about with going further but only on targets. I find point of impact wanders a little when it gets dirty, usually give it a clean, stick 6-8 rounds through it and it’s ok again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 you bought a .17 HMR. That's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 First .17Hmr I had wouldn't hold 3 inches at 100 yds. Persevered for ages before giving up and taking it back to the shop to sell it at a huge loss. Bought another one last year; a 16 inch Varmint, and it groups incredibly well. .17Hmr's are like Marmite.......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Both my brother's Annie - and my Sako Quad barrels got shot out and produced too many wild fliers by 7000 rounds if thats any help to you. Replacement barrels sorted them but we found we'd well over shot our permissions by then though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 This is at less than 200 shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dougy said: The problem you may have is probably born from the mount of fairy tales you read on the internet. You 're led to believe that the HMR will shoot a gnats danglies off at 150 yards. But what you have found is that in the real world it's basically a load of tosh. This ?? If I was you I would be happy with you 1moa , that’s about as good as it’s gonna get with your silly speed air gun pellet . Just a thought but are you capable of shooting as good as your expecting your rifle too ? Edited February 4, 2018 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 I know its not in the same league trigger wise but my virtually new browning T bolt is doing 1MOA at 100 yards reading a few comments and reviews on the cartridge that's about par for the course for HMR. I did have a while ago a HW60 that would hold 3/4 MOA off the bench being a better trigger. If you want really tight groups I would look towards at .17 hornet then you can really bring the group sizes down but its a much better cartridge consistency wise that can be also improved by hand loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Mines got a 16" barrel and a decent mod, I shoot the same ammo as the poster with no issues at all! Its important you shoot it in the right conditions but I'm happy to head shoot rabbits well past 150 yards, I've never had a problem with mine but each to there own!! It's a tool for a job and it does it very well for me... tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 hours ago, stevo said: Just a thought but are you capable of shooting as good as your expecting your rifle too ? ^ this. I've heard some damned amazing grouping claims... But when I try I'm nowhere near what some claim. When I set up to check zero etc, If I can repeatedly group within the size of a rabbits head at 100-120 yards, off my bipod, leaning on the Defender bonnet then I am more than happy. I KNOW the rifle can do better, but I don't think I can - not without many hours practice and fettling with the gun. I may get flack from some for that, but I'm being honest. In the real world, I kill many more rabbits than I miss. I'm not looking for pretty target paper groupings to win prizes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Well I can shoot sub 1/2” with my .22LR and subs at 80 yards. So I’d like to think I can do my bit. I could do with a slightly higher mag and finer reticle scope. That would improve my groups a little. Out to a 100 yards I’m more than happy, it’s when I want to push it out a bit further. If I can shoot 150 yards with it I would be happy. Edited February 4, 2018 by Brad93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Tedly47 said: Mines got a 16" barrel and a decent mod, I shoot the same ammo as the poster with no issues at all! Its important you shoot it in the right conditions but I'm happy to head shoot rabbits well past 150 yards, I've never had a problem with mine but each to there own!! It's a tool for a job and it does it very well for me... tedly Yes, you do shoot well with the rifle - but I think you need to exchange it for a CZ455 Varmint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) My mate has the same rifle. Like you he gets 1" groups @ 100y. The only way I can see you getting it tighter is fettling the trigger or perhaps try different ammo. Having said that he uses his out to about 130 and rarely misses. The other way to look at it is at 100y the bullet is only going to impact a maximum of 1/2" from the centre of the crosswire which is fairly tight shooting. Also I have noticed the tiny bullet holes are a bit deceiving and make the group sizes look bigger than they really are. 3 shots with a .30 cal wouldn't look half as bad. I always mess up sending links so search ' Varmint Al's field testing the .17 hmr' Quite an in depth article. Edited February 5, 2018 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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