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Can anybody tell me why on earth I would want to buy a Tesla when I could buy a brand new 5litre V8 Ford Mustang Convertible for less than half the price? with some models a third of the price?

When I hit the M4 on a Sunday morning I know what I would rather be driving!

and I know which one I can leave to my grandson in my will

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10 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

No, but I can see why you might want the Mustang:good: I prefer the older ones, but could never afford one:sad1:

The cheapest I ever paid for a Mustang was £70 for a 68 six cylinder hardtop. Mustangs are not expensive, you can probably pay more for some of the VW Caddy van options than you would pay for a new Mustang

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16 minutes ago, Dunkield said:

They were a mass produced, cheap car for the masses, slow and with poor brakes - the old ones have just become desirable on the back of films like Bullet, and the fact they can look pretty cool.

Absolutely right, the original factory concept brief for the mustang was a womans car, something you bought for your daughter. The same concept crossed the atlantic and gave us the capri in Europe.

However, they are mechanically very simple, you could say basic in the earliest models but that is the beauty. Every mechanical part is still available and dirt cheap. You don't need specialist tools etc. Unlike a lot of classics. The other thing is they are endlessly upgradable

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Daughters boyfriend had one for the w/end...OMG do they shift but the total silence is unnerving. Imagine being sat in a comfy leather chair then being launched from a catapult and you're about there - the acceleration is just instant and seems never ending, from about 30mph the car was capable of spinning all four wheels with a prod of the pedal.

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I like the idea of them being quiet and clean running, but eco friendly i think not. The production of the batteries and life span is the limiting factor in all electric cars at the moment. Soon an as they sort out the carbon nano super capacitors the market will change to electric cars.

Good looking cars the Teslas on the road, but watch you tube or read up online and lots of stories unhappy owners.

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Electric cars seem to bring out a high level of uninformed smugness from the owners such as: "My car's all electric so I don't produce any pollution when I go to Tesco" etc., etc.

But, in reality, electric cars are a long way from being non polluting. They may not pollute at the point of use but as long as 70%+ of electricity is produced from oil, gas or coal, electric cars will never be non polluting. And the pollution is not just at the power stations because the stuff has to be extracted, transported around the world and maybe refined before it can be burned in a hugely inefficient power station to generate electricity. The alternatives to fossil fuel based power generation such as solar, wind or nuclear are at best donkey's years away from producing the overwhelming majority of the world's electricity needs and, come to think of it, how will the National Grid cope if 20 million people arrive home from work at 5.30 pm and they all plug their cars in to charge the batteries.

As early as 2019 Mazda for sure and possibly Nissan will be selling cars with compression ignition petrol engines which easily match diesel for mpg and within 5 years they'll be producing engines emitting less total pollution than electric cars of similar performance yet without sacrificing any of the advantages of petrol.

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On 3/28/2018 at 14:54, fister said:

I found it particularly interesting how one car maker, I believe Jaguar, used the phrase “zero TAILPIPE emmisions” in an advert. Very telling when you read between the lines. Elon Musk oe whatever his name is seems to have some kind of arrogant messiah halo around his ego with a passion to save us all.

Totally agree about Elon Musk.

Zero tailpipe emissions are important because there's obviously a need to reduce pollution in city streets etc. and that's where the electric car scores.

I must admit I own a hybrid (Ioniq). Not for the eco issues but because it is very economical over shorter journeys which would cripple a modern diesel with a DPF.

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2 hours ago, theshootist said:

The new mazda engine is going to be great, compression when cruising and spark ignition under heavy loads. If it can do 100mpg then it deserves to beat the Prius.

The potential might be great but we will have to wait and see. Mazda are promoting it and we all know how we can trust manufacturer's claims.

Small turbo petrol engines are great for performance and test bench economy but in the real world are thirsty and emissions including particulates are higher than non turbo on the road.

Volkswagen have already stated that future petrol engines will need particulate filters to meet tighter regulations. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Brodie said:

Small turbo petrol engines are great for performance and test bench economy but in the real world are thirsty and emissions including particulates are higher than non turbo on the road.

Which is why Mazda goes it's own way with high efficiency normally aspirated larger engines. 2 of my sons have cars with small engines and large turbos and under perfect conditions the economy is indeed excellent, but with normal things like the school run or commuting the economy (and presumably emissions) isn't good at all.

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On 30/03/2018 at 12:46, Westward said:

Which is why Mazda goes it's own way with high efficiency normally aspirated larger engines. 2 of my sons have cars with small engines and large turbos and under perfect conditions the economy is indeed excellent, but with normal things like the school run or commuting the economy (and presumably emissions) isn't good at all.

My wife has a Fiesta with the 1.0 Ecoboost Engine, it certainly behaves like a bigger engine and has a thirst to match. I'd consider a 1.0 normally aspirated model in future.

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I spent sometime last weekend driving various electric , hybrid and hydrogen cell powered cars around the brands hatch Grand Prix prix track as an environmentally centred promotion.

  As a. through and through petrol head it was quite an eye opener. These new cars really can perform and grip.

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