JohnfromUK Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 There is a William Powell patent that has strikers like that and when the striker is pushed back (by the primer in the cartridge when there is a cartridge in the chamber, they show the word “LOADED” engraved and gold filled around the large cylinder shape at the hammer/striker interface. I can post a photo (my Powell hammer gun has this patent), and I think there is a picture earlier in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: There is a William Powell patent that has strikers like that and when the striker is pushed back (by the primer in the cartridge when there is a cartridge in the chamber, they show the word “LOADED” engraved and gold filled around the large cylinder shape at the hammer/striker interface. I can post a photo (my Powell hammer gun has this patent), and I think there is a picture earlier in this thread. The Powell is in the 18th post on page 5 (posted 19th April) of this thread and the "LOADED" on the firing pins can just be seen, and on page 6 at post 19 on that page (posted 20th April) is another gun with large diameter (in this case domed) firing pins on a Charles Maleham (made by W & C Scott). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 I will post some pics of the proof marks tomorrow along with a better shot of the firing action. I'll try to get some with the camera instead of the iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 These type of strikers / firing pins were not uncommon. The are frequently seen on cheaper guns but not uncommon on better quality guns as well as on guns where the nipples have been lost , as "budget repair" . There is nothing wrong with them at all and are in fact more difficult to replace , if done correctly , as they need a narrow slot cut in them for the retaining pin .. Advantages are that without the nipple you can get a lower hammer profile , so when cocked the hammer spurs are less visible to the eye . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Hi all, new to this group just purchased my second Aya it's a #2 ,already got a Aya#4 looking forward to following the group 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Best pics I can get i think i have got a date ....almost to the exact year, but I will leave to the more knowledgable amongst you. all input gratefully received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Pre 1904, Black powder proof then! Proofed at .710 thou/13 bore ( .729 nom 12 bore) the word 'choke' stamped is post 1887....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Thanks for explaining the strikers. Never seen them before. Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 From the list of proof marks it appears that the only time the word CHOKE was used on its own without additional numbers was a temporary measure for ONE year only.....or am I reading it incorrectly? once again, all input gratefully received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 They look like Belgian proof marks, I could be wrong. Google English proof marks shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mr.C said: They look like Belgian proof marks, I could be wrong. Google English proof marks shotgun. I thought that. 'EL' or 'L' for Liege. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Birmingham pre 1904 , black powder .Almost certainly 2&1/2" and will probably have a short cone "roll over "chambers so be careful with you case lengths if using crimped cases as it could cause extraction problems , the chambers may also be a bit "tight" by modern standards . Diver One's list is Belgium . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Quick question, would nitromors damage the blueing on my AYA Yeoman, If I was to try and strip the varnish without stripping the gun down completely? Any advise helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, MacSxS said: Any advise helpful I think my concern would be that it would get into the wood/metal joint and be impossible to clean out completely ....... and I don't think I'd like Nitromors in there for a long period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 20 hours ago, MacSxS said: Quick question, would nitromors damage the blueing on my AYA Yeoman, If I was to try and strip the varnish without stripping the gun down completely? Any advise helpful Most AyA varnish is surface only so does not take a lot of removing, it is stained so the the wood will look white when stripped . In the past I have always preferred to scrape and sand these rather than use chemical means .The advantages of this method is that you do not have to spend so much time grain filling afterwards . It is always best and often easiest to work on the stock head with it off the action . Saves having to be so careful about getting finish on the action and a lot easier to rub down round the metal work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 thanks for the advice gunman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Is there anyone close to me (Bromsgrove, Worcestershire) willing to strip it down for me and then put it back together after I have sorted the wood out. I am willing to pay 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, MacSxS said: Is there anyone close to me (Bromsgrove, Worcestershire) willing to strip it down for me and then put it back together after I have sorted the wood out. I am willing to pay 🙂 Don't let just anyone try! If they haven't got the right turnscrews, it all too easy to chew up the screwhead slots! Which ruins the appearance of the gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Thanks for the advice panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Left briefly and rejoined within 30 mins this morning lol Sold my belgian 16b hammer and replaced it with an aya no4 Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Great guns the,#4 , also got a #2 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza71 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Some great looking Guns on this forum I do love a side by side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Drayman1965 said: Great guns the,#4 , also got a #2 👍 Thanks, All its done since Ive actually had a chance to use it is rain. Hoping it clears up a bit this afternoon so I can go for a wander. Only paid £100 for it and would like to learn so shoot properly with it so I can splash out on the webley and scott I've got my eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 hours ago, dazza71 said: Some great looking Guns on this forum I do love a side by side 👍 3 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: Thanks, All its done since Ive actually had a chance to use it is rain. Hoping it clears up a bit this afternoon so I can go for a wander. Only paid £100 for it and would like to learn so shoot properly with it so I can splash out on the webley and scott I've got my eye on. £100 is a great price hope it stops raining so you can get out there with it, mind you it's not made of sugar lol🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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