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1 hour ago, Hicky said:

Probably, being young and sponge like I hope he makes the transition, a different sight plane and double triggers will be a learning curve.🤓

If the kid shoots better with o/u starting off then let it be keeps the kid interested down the line then let him switch to S/S 

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32 minutes ago, Gerry78 said:

If the kid shoots better with o/u starting off then let it be keeps the kid interested down the line then let him switch to S/S 

Most definitely 

kids are curious creatures and they tend to want to try all sorts inevitability shooting far better with a gun they like that takes expensive cartridges that you can’t afford to buy for them 😊

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1 hour ago, Gerry78 said:

If the kid shoots better with o/u starting off then let it be keeps the kid interested down the line then let him switch to S/S 

I'm in agreement, he's happy as is but showing an interest. Imo as long as he's keen to tieup his laces in the cold and come out then that is the result I'm after.

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Pretty well everyone has to try the 'fashions'. 

When I started shooting nearly 50 years ago, I started on a s/s - as did many then.  It was given to me by my godfather who was a keen and very good shot - and it did fit me ...... once I had grown a bit (still does fit me). I didn't shoot well at all (I'm at least slightly better now!) and was persuaded that my 'problem' was that I needed an O/U.  One was in due course bought - and I did just as badly with that!

Over the years - I have learned to shoot both (I still have both those guns).

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On 27/10/2021 at 18:58, JohnfromUK said:

All AyAs are generally very reliable. 

Can I suggest that a light cartridge such as 21g (I use Hull CompX 21g) go very well in a s/s for clays - and won't break either the bank or the shoulder!

Having failed to get to the gunshop in time yesterday, I've put a box of Caledonian club 28's through it today. (Just what I had to hand.)

 

First impressions? It's bloody loud, and will give you a proper old kick if you're not holding it absolutely right. 

 

But it works, it's easy to swing about, and it broke the clays more or less as well as my O/U with similarly snug chokes. 

 

I'm very happy with it, but yeah. Lighter loads are going to be the way forwards with this one.

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7 minutes ago, Nickliv said:

will give you a proper old kick if you're not holding it absolutely right.

With a s/s, you probably have a weight of about 6 3/4 pounds.  O/U - maybe 8 pounds, maybe a bit more. 

That's why the recoil is more, but gun fit does play a part as well.  If it is a bit short ...... it may seem to recoil more.

My lightest (s/s) 12 is near enough dead on 6 pounds and my heaviest (o/u) a whisker under 8 pounds - all 'game' type guns rather than 'trap, sporting etc' which tend to be a bit heavier.  Needless to say, the 6 pounder is a lively recoil even with light cartridges and the o/u is very gentle in comparison!  My preferred weight for a s/s is 6 1/2 to 6 3/4 pounds on 28" barrels and a probably average or slightly under average length at 14 1/2".  Then the diet is 21g on clays, 28g on game.  There is a bit of variation between cartridge brands and I favour Hull as I have found them both smooth and effective.  I try and avoid anything claiming 'super high velocity' or similar!

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On 28/10/2021 at 15:08, Hicky said:

Put to good use last Saturday with 30g 6's(its all I had in) two for two.....sadly it went downhill from there.

I should get some lighter carts as the 12 y/o is eyeing it up.

Had a mixture of odd shells out with me last week most of which were 28g but I came across a couple of Hull driven Grouse 30g 6s. The sxs handled them well and they weren't too punchy in the lighter gun. 

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