Ultrastu Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Winston72 said: I'll stop when other people stop talking about been straight,and i am merely raising a plight not my own personal one, but one of many that have a hard time Really ? Really .? When was the last time you saw a straight madigras ? Or anyone going on about equal rights for hetro people . Wind this up please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Ultrastu said: Really ? Really .? When was the last time you saw a straight madigras ? Or anyone going on about equal rights for hetro people . Wind this up please . Are you still here? loads of straights at Mardigras unless my radar is well off.....all those missed opportunities, Wind it up? just leave if you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Winston72 said: I didn't expect much of a response at all but though i might just enlighten the odd one or two, Really ? Shouted like Gerard Butler in 300 'THIS IS PIGEON WATCH ' Its not really happening is it? And certainly not in the way youve done it, your first post was fine , but then you got all confrontational and defensive. Which hasnt helped yours, or the LGBT case in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, spandit said: Almost as bad as being called R. Spandit... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Really ? Shouted like Gerard Butler in 300 'THIS IS PIGEON WATCH ' Its not really happening is it? And certainly not in the way youve done it, your first post was fine , but then you got all confrontational and defensive. Which hasnt helped yours, or the LGBT case in general. Really , i really didn't expect the response it got, and it was defensive before confrontational, i know i bit, part of my nature, maybe i was a jack russel in a previous life. 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Really ? Shouted like Gerard Butler in 300 'THIS IS PIGEON WATCH ' Its not really happening is it? And certainly not in the way youve done it, your first post was fine , but then you got all confrontational and defensive. Which hasnt helped yours, or the LGBT case in general. He is HOTTT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, Winston72 said: Really , i really didn't expect the response it got, and it was defensive before confrontational, i know i bit, part of my nature, maybe i was a jack russel in a previous life. Who knows ? Can dogs be gay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, AULD YIN said: I thought the rules covered this type of thread? It is strictly prohibited to post or hyperlink to, any material which is defamatory, threatening, obscene, harmful, pornographic or of a sexual nature, or material which would violate or infringe in any way upon the rights of others (including intellectual property rights, copyrights, rights of confidentiality, or rights of privacy) or cause distress or inconvenience or which do not comply with all relevant laws. You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic, offensive, or otherwise violating any law. But this thread does none of that? although a few individual posts have sailed a touch close to the wind for homophobic posts now. As long as we're only talking about it in general terms and in more philosophical terms about what it is to be accepted for who you are, I don't think it breaks any of the forum rules. Don't forget we have countless threads on shooting and shooters being discriminated against, or being tarred with the same brush as mass murderers, or air rifles being shot at pets. It's just that this time it's about the gay community and it's not of much relevance to most people on the forum, as it's not a discrimination we feel on a regular basis. Had Winston put up a thread about shooters being unfairly discriminated against, we'd all be in agreement decrying the unfairness of life, because it's personal. This isn't to most of us, but it clearly is to Winston. A few posts of late probably run aground of the above laws, but not many, which is a good thing. I wasn't interested in the topic per se. I am interested in the responses, which is why I'm still following and reading. 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Who knows ? Can dogs be gay ? Off topic! put that in dogs and dog training! would it be easier or harder to train a gay or lesbian dog? would they make better or worse gundogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: But this thread does none of that? although a few individual posts have sailed a touch close to the wind for homophobic posts now. As long as we're only talking about it in general terms and in more philosophical terms about what it is to be accepted for who you are, I don't think it breaks any of the forum rules. Don't forget we have countless threads on shooting and shooters being discriminated against, or being tarred with the same brush as mass murderers, or air rifles being shot at pets. It's just that this time it's about the gay community and it's not of much relevance to most people on the forum, as it's not a discrimination we feel on a regular basis. Had Winston put up a thread about shooters being unfairly discriminated against, we'd all be in agreement decrying the unfairness of life, because it's personal. This isn't to most of us, but it clearly is to Winston. A few posts of late probably run aground of the above laws, but not many, which is a good thing. I wasn't interested in the topic per se. I am interested in the responses, which is why I'm still following and reading. I read it how i see it ,initial post has nothing to do with sexual nature ? i dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Who knows ? Can dogs be gay ? Of course they can, have you never seen a Bichon frise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, AULD YIN said: I read it how i see it ,initial post has nothing to do with sexual nature ? i dont think so. Did you read the article? There's nothing of a sexual nature in there either - nor in any of the following posts, which I guess is why the Mods haven't closed it. The phrase 'sexual nature' outlaws stuff about sex, not sexuality; in fact most of the debate and the article aren't even about that. They're about acceptance and what acceptance looks like. Had Winston filled the post with sexual references, innuendo, crude bedroom talk and the like then yes, it'd contravene on the grounds of posts 'of a sexual nature'. But we're talking about what it looks like to accept homosexuality and the attitudes of forum users towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Winston72 said: Are you still here? loads of straights at Mardigras unless my radar is well off.....all those missed opportunities, Wind it up? just leave if you don't like it. Whats up ? The truth hurt. ? You cause a problem and then cry about it. You should define your self by your achievements not your sexual prefrences . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: Off topic! put that in dogs and dog training! Admin please move 15 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: would it be easier or harder to train a gay or lesbian dog? would they make better or worse gundogs? We need to put this to the test, anyone one on the massive have a gay or lesbian working dog ? 5 minutes ago, Winston72 said: Of course they can, have you never seen a Bichon frise I had to look that up, yes ,those dogs are gay as you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Winston72 said: maybe a thread on Lube prices and buying in bulk? that would be really useful, it just cost me a small fortune to change all the oils on my transit. I actually spent time clicking on the link you posted, there is some good information on their but i think it is devalued somewhat by comments like this: "It’s often forgotten and more often ignored that many of the campaigners for votes for women were bisexual or lesbians including two of our faces for LGBT History Month in past years: Ethel Smythe and Emmeline Pankhurst." Their sexuality neither diminishes or enhances their achievements and legacy so why would you make comment about it. By all means LGBT history month should be discussing the milestones for equal rights and educating people of previous plights of the gay community etc but "outing" famous historical figures just devalues the whole discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, Ultrastu said: Whats up ? The truth hurt. ? You cause a problem and then cry about it. You should define your self by your achievements not your sexual prefrences . What truth , your on a different planet, you do keep coming back, I'm beginning to think you fancy me,not a tear in site apart from those of laughter, and as for defining myself, who are you to tell me how it should be done...........Nobody, that's who. 3 minutes ago, ferguson_tom said: that would be really useful, it just cost me a small fortune to change all the oils on my transit. I actually spent time clicking on the link you posted, there is some good information on their but i think it is devalued somewhat by comments like this: "It’s often forgotten and more often ignored that many of the campaigners for votes for women were bisexual or lesbians including two of our faces for LGBT History Month in past years: Ethel Smythe and Emmeline Pankhurst." Their sexuality neither diminishes or enhances their achievements and legacy so why would you make comment about it. By all means LGBT history month should be discussing the milestones for equal rights and educating people of previous plights of the gay community etc but "outing" famous historical figures just devalues the whole discussion. Cant fault that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, ferguson_tom said: that would be really useful, it just cost me a small fortune to change all the oils on my transit. I actually spent time clicking on the link you posted, there is some good information on their but i think it is devalued somewhat by comments like this: "It’s often forgotten and more often ignored that many of the campaigners for votes for women were bisexual or lesbians including two of our faces for LGBT History Month in past years: Ethel Smythe and Emmeline Pankhurst." Their sexuality neither diminishes or enhances their achievements and legacy so why would you make comment about it. By all means LGBT history month should be discussing the milestones for equal rights and educating people of previous plights of the gay community etc but "outing" famous historical figures just devalues the whole discussion. Yeah I noticed that too. It's their gender - not their sexuality - that moved them to act. If it was sexuality, why were the VAST majority of suffragettes straight? As far as I'm aware, no legal action was taken against them for it and it didn't hinder or promote the suffragette cause in any way. She probably owned some dark blue socks too. That probably didn't impact the cause too much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 12 hours ago, Winston72 said: you keep coming back for a flirt, simply PM me if you wanna grind Yes i read the article ,also read his lighthearted responces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Im telling every one, not just you mr centre of attention seeker , Its our actions that define us. Not what we are born with . Do you think a young girl with cerebal plausy wants to be defined as such ? No she wants to be thought of as a hair dresser or a cook or what ever. Her achivements . You want to campaign for gay rights but your going about it the wrong way and as such are part of the problem and not the solution . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Thats the truth that hurts you .. Im all for equal gay rights and same sex marrige etc . I have no issue with it. Im not your enemy or against your beliefs. Your attempted constant belittleing of me is a sign of you being unable to accept your sexuality and move on . And this troubles you. When you have reached a happy state you will come into line with what the vast majority of posters on here have already said . THEY DONT CARE as it should be . Edited May 1, 2018 by Ultrastu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Ultrastu said: Im telling every one, not just you mr centre of attention seeker , Its our actions that define us. Not what we are born with . Do you think a young girl with cerebal plausy wants to be defined as such ? No she wants to be thought of as a hair dresser or a cook or what ever. Her achivements . You want to campaign for gay rights but your going about it the wrong way and as such are part of the problem and not the solution . Seeing as you quoted me its a fair assumption it was aimed at me, you are of course entitled to your opinion, were not dis cussing cerebra palsy or amputees for that matter simply awareness, and as previously stated if ya dont like dont read Mr.Antagoniser 6 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Thats the truth that hurts you .. Im all for equal gay rights and same sex marrige etc . I have no issue with it. Im not your enemy or against your beliefs. Your attempted constant belittleing of me is a sign of you being unable to accept your sexuality and move on . And this troubles you. When you have reached a happy state you will come into line with what the vast majority of posters on here have already said . THEY DONT CARE as it should be . You just cant stay away , if your coming on to me just get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Winston72 said: You just cant stay away , if your coming on to me just get on with it. That's just sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 The way i see this post now as different from the 1st page. Winston has made it common knowledge that he is gay. And that sums it all up for me, no real need to get to the 5th page. Well done Winston i only wish i had your courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 55 minutes ago, Winston72 said: Are you still here? loads of straights at Mardigras unless my radar is well off.....all those missed opportunities, Wind it up? just leave if you don't like it. I see what you are saying, but do these straight people tell anyone who will listen that they are straight? No, so why do the gays feel the need to tell everyone they are gay? What does it actually have to do with anything in day to day life? For the life of me I can't see why a gay bloke or girl would want to have their own individual march or parade then complain that they feel they are treated differently. Seriously, could I hold a hetero march without being accused of homophobia? Many years ago I used to drive a taxi and one of my regulars was a doorman (straight, so he said) who worked the door of a gay club. He admitted his job was to keep straight people out as they cause trouble. Can you imagine if a straight club kept out gay people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Not that i'm gay mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, walshie said: I see what you are saying, but do these straight people tell anyone who will listen that they are straight? No, so why do the gays feel the need to tell everyone they are gay? What does it actually have to do with anything in day to day life? For the life of me I can't see why a gay bloke or girl would want to have their own individual march or parade then complain that they feel they are treated differently. Seriously, could I hold a hetero march without being accused of homophobia? Many years ago I used to drive a taxi and one of my regulars was a doorman (straight, so he said) who worked the door of a gay club. He admitted his job was to keep straight people out as they cause trouble. Can you imagine if a straight club kept out gay people? Mainly because straights don't get victimised because of there sexuality, it was still classed as a mental illness i the 80's and still frowned upon today 13 minutes ago, AULD YIN said: That's just sad This doesn't involve you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Winston72 said: Mainly because straights don't get victimised because of there sexuality, it was still classed as a mental illness i the 80's and still frowned upon today This doesn't involve you. Seems you want it your own way all the time,not your place on an open forum to dictate to me what i can and cannot respond to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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