Harnser Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 I have never had specialist tyres on any of my 4x4s .allways run them on the all terrain tyres they came with . The worst off roaders I have had is the three land rovers I owned ,never again . The best by far are the jap pick up trucks I have owned . They will out perform land rovers in all modes . The best bit of kit you can have on board is a long handled shovel . You can dig the mud out from behind the wheels with out having to bend down . The best advice for off roading is to watch were you are going and be in the highest gear possible with the lowest possible revs . Remember ,with a 4x4 you will get stuck further from the road . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Mine is on general grabbers and has yet to get stuck, but all it ever does is wet grass with a few ton on a trailer. I cant comment on noise as the straight through pipe is loud enough to drown pretty much everything else out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 to be fair most 4x4 vehicles with the same type of drive are the same off road.....tyres do make a difference and also weight distribution and clearance underneath.....Harnser is a known landrover hater....he must have been run down by one......but he is right in what he says.....regards picking and choosing where you drive and what gear....one of the 4x4's that impressed me was the vauxhall frontera.....you snapped that diff-lock in boy and you would go forward...trouble was you couldnt use the steering wheel as it wouldnt alter the direction of travel until you disengaged the diff lock......... the only way to get the most out of a 4x4 is to put a small winch on 12-1500kg one ...you dont need a 6000kg winch when you get stuck...if you do ..you shouldnt have been there in the first place so nice little winch (equiv' to 6 people pushing) 5ft steel stake sledge hammer fit that to any 4x4 and it becomes unstoppable....regardless of what make it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, ditchman said: to be fair most 4x4 vehicles with the same type of drive are the same off road.....tyres do make a difference and also weight distribution and clearance underneath.....Harnser is a known landrover hater....he must have been run down by one......but he is right in what he says.....regards picking and choosing where you drive and what gear....one of the 4x4's that impressed me was the vauxhall frontera.....you snapped that diff-lock in boy and you would go forward...trouble was you couldnt use the steering wheel as it wouldnt alter the direction of travel until you disengaged the diff lock......... the only way to get the most out of a 4x4 is to put a small winch on 12-1500kg one ...you dont need a 6000kg winch when you get stuck...if you do ..you shouldnt have been there in the first place so nice little winch (equiv' to 6 people pushing) 5ft steel stake sledge hammer fit that to any 4x4 and it becomes unstoppable....regardless of what make it is.. I have a little 8000 Champion on mine but I've not had to use it so far. I don't know how effective they are but I doubt I'll ever deliberately get in a position where I have to; but you never know. A mate told me I should fit a snorkel, but besides them looking ridiculous and plug ugly, I told him that if I ever thought I was going to be in a position where I needed one I'd simply stay home. I can't figure out why it took Harnser THREE LR's before he decided they were no good off road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 The problem with fitting snorkels is that very rarely does anyone do the other things necessary to increase the wading depth, snorkel is only one part of the breathing system. The gearbox and diffs all have breathers that need systems fitted to them so stop them being flooded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Scully said: I have a little 8000 Champion on mine but I've not had to use it so far. I don't know how effective they are but I doubt I'll ever deliberately get in a position where I have to; but you never know. A mate told me I should fit a snorkel, but besides them looking ridiculous and plug ugly, I told him that if I ever thought I was going to be in a position where I needed one I'd simply stay home. I can't figure out why it took Harnser THREE LR's before he decided they were no good off road. Not so much not good off road ,but not any better than any other 4x4 . They were all money pits and totally unreliable .always breaking down . They cost me a fortune . Jap pick ups are far more reliable and will do every thing a Land Rover will do better and for longer .the first one I owned was an old series land rover that I bought for a bit of fun ,what a piece of old carp . The second was a 300 tdi ,a total waste of space and the third a top of the range Td 5 that wouldn’t pull a chicken off the nest . 4 times 3 amigos on that one . Got burnt ,learnt my lesson and bought proper reliable 4x4 s harnser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Harnser said: Not so much not good off road ,but not any better than any other 4x4 . They were all money pits and totally unreliable .always breaking down . They cost me a fortune . Jap pick ups are far more reliable and will do every thing a Land Rover will do better and for longer .the first one I owned was an old series land rover that I bought for a bit of fun ,what a piece of old carp . The second was a 300 tdi ,a total waste of space and the third a top of the range Td 5 that wouldn’t pull a chicken off the nest . 4 times 3 amigos on that one . Got burnt ,learnt my lesson and bought proper reliable 4x4 s harnser. Fair enough. I'm not claiming they're 'the best 4x4 by far '..that's just sales pitch, but I don't think they're any worse off road than any other. The only thing I replaced on my 300tdi was a lift pump and water pump, on a Disco' 1 ES. We all know what rust buckets they were and so was mine but the 300tdi is still going strong somewhere. It did great service prior to that; ferrying the kids and me all over East Lothian on holidays. As for the TD5, all I can say is you must have some big chickens round your neck of the woods as most of the TD5's around here are pulling horse boxes, sometimes even with horses in them! One of them uses his Disco to pull his mini digger about. A mate uses his TD 5 daily on the farm, full of feed bags ( full ones ! ) and it runs on Hancook tyres. My 200tdi is bullet proof and as for the 2.4 TDCi, well....time will tell. I haven't had it long enough to form an opinion, but am enjoying it immensely so far. My nephew is on his second L200 in the space of five years. He says he's enjoying the second but couldnt wait to get rid of the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeonshooter22 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) On 09/05/2018 at 21:17, Harnser said: Not so much not good off road ,but not any better than any other 4x4 . They were all money pits and totally unreliable .always breaking down . They cost me a fortune . Jap pick ups are far more reliable and will do every thing a Land Rover will do better and for longer .the first one I owned was an old series land rover that I bought for a bit of fun ,what a piece of old carp . The second was a 300 tdi ,a total waste of space and the third a top of the range Td 5 that wouldn’t pull a chicken off the nest . 4 times 3 amigos on that one . Got burnt ,learnt my lesson and bought proper reliable 4x4 s harnser. Interesting you didn't like the TD5. I don't think there is a best 4x4 they all have their problems. Had a L200 warrior a few years back, and the head went at 80k cost a fortune to fix and sold it and noticed not even a year later it was sorn at 90k on the clock. I have a Freelander 2 and its been far from reliable but a lot of the family (farmers) have Disco TD5's and have been so reliable, one has nearly 200k on the clock and dooes crazy off roading in winter to get to the lifestock and tows trailers full of feed across bogged out fields, trailer full of fence posts, they pull diggers etc no problem. We had a TD5 for towing the horses, use to tow about 3t in it and it towed lovely but now have a 3.2 Shogun and that manages just as well but don't notice much difference, the Shogun is also good off road considering but doesn't have the ground clearance like the TD5.. Edited June 12, 2018 by Pigeonshooter22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 My old man has a td5, been pretty much everywhere with it and it's been reliable bar the fuel pump went. Set of decent boots and it was good to go. My Jimmy will go quite literally anywhere I take it, doesn't matter if it's muddy or dry it goes there. I did get stuck once, dropped tyres down to 14 pound and drove out, pumped them up back on the road. I have a pump in the car that plugs into the fag lighter for when that happens! Best 40 quid I've spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollerman Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 New Jimny out early 2019. Pictures just released and looking good.With a new more economic engine can see this little beauty selling very well indeed.Apparently to come on sale at £13000 for the basic model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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