ditchman Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Lord Geordie said: Promises promises that would kill you boy.......that rot my brain thinking about what it would do to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockySpears Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 hours ago, AVB said: 9) they are cheap to run. Free/cheap electricity, no/lower car tax, no congestion charge and from 2020 BIK tax reduces to 2%. You mean I pay for all your free stuff? Show me the free electricity, I want some. Why no car tax? Don't you use the road? Is your vehicle not heavier than the average car and therefore more damaging? Why no congestion charge? Does you car not congest the roads? You live off us, your car lives because we, the taxpayer, pay for your car. No you are not green, you are a freeloader on our taxes, RS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, RockySpears said: You mean I pay for all your free stuff? Show me the free electricity, I want some. Why no car tax? Don't you use the road? Is your vehicle not heavier than the average car and therefore more damaging? Why no congestion charge? Does you car not congest the roads? You live off us, your car lives because we, the taxpayer, pay for your car. No you are not green, you are a freeloader on our taxes, RS ..classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, RockySpears said: You mean I pay for all your free stuff? Show me the free electricity, I want some. Why no car tax? Don't you use the road? Is your vehicle not heavier than the average car and therefore more damaging? Why no congestion charge? Does you car not congest the roads? You live off us, your car lives because we, the taxpayer, pay for your car. No you are not green, you are a freeloader on our taxes, RS ? Reminds me of my old boss saying that his 'subsidised' photovoltaic solar panelling was wonderful and that it gave him 'free' hot water and heating etc etc. One of the lads pointed out to him that his 'free' electricity was subsidised by us, the tax payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 hours ago, RockySpears said: You mean I pay for all your free stuff? Show me the free electricity, I want some. Why no car tax? Don't you use the road? Is your vehicle not heavier than the average car and therefore more damaging? Why no congestion charge? Does you car not congest the roads? You live off us, your car lives because we, the taxpayer, pay for your car. No you are not green, you are a freeloader on our taxes, RS I said I didn’t buy it because it was green. I bought it because it was a great bit of kit. Tesla superchargers are free (paid for by Tesla so you could argue that I have paid for it via the car) And yes I suppose you do subsidise some elements. Good isn’t it! I suggest you complain to the government instead of whinging to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Problem is we currently consume 330ish TWH of electricity per annum for all uses of which we produce 300 twh domestically with the remainder imported, whilst also consuming 490 TWH of petrol and diesel for automobile use. (plus a bit more for planes , trains and ships). In order to switch to ev entirely for automobile transport we will have to add 150ish percent additional capacity to our current electricity production...... Its not going to happen......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 i am staggered at the ammount of money that will be spent on HS2................... we have a very high tidal reach and a lot of rocky coasts and inlets.............just look at all the electricity that could be harvested on tidal capture....instead we have just one very small scheme that is going to be built........as long as the moon is still there there will be tides...and the tides change / staggered all around the uk particulary around the west coast so demand would be overlapped..........wales could become the electro' centre of the uk and further up the coast...................and with tidal capture you dont need to block up the esturies ...so it is far more enviromentally frendly that way..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, ditchman said: i am staggered at the ammount of money that will be spent on HS2................... we have a very high tidal reach and a lot of rocky coasts and inlets.............just look at all the electricity that could be harvested on tidal capture....instead we have just one very small scheme that is going to be built........as long as the moon is still there there will be tides...and the tides change / staggered all around the uk particulary around the west coast so demand would be overlapped..........wales could become the electro' centre of the uk and further up the coast...................and with tidal capture you dont need to block up the esturies ...so it is far more enviromentally frendly that way..................... Unfortunately a no go as the greens/rspb/Kwiss will be upset as it will effect a few wading birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Unfortunately a no go as the greens/rspb/Kwiss will be upset as it will effect a few wading birds. so when we are all birds as well flora...forna... et al....coughing our guts up....because they are worried about a few inverabrates...thats okay then ?...the govt' are quite happy with that then ? i think the govt and people of this country should "grow some testicles".........im sic and tired bending over backwards to all these minority groups...........dont get me wrong some of them are sensible...but not many... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Electric cars are like the emperor's new clothes. If enough people tell you how great they are then you start to believe that they must be. However, there are very many issues still unresolved. Mostly surrounding the batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, ditchman said: i am staggered at the ammount of money that will be spent on HS2................... we have a very high tidal reach and a lot of rocky coasts and inlets.............just look at all the electricity that could be harvested on tidal capture....instead we have just one very small scheme that is going to be built........as long as the moon is still there there will be tides...and the tides change / staggered all around the uk particulary around the west coast so demand would be overlapped..........wales could become the electro' centre of the uk and further up the coast...................and with tidal capture you dont need to block up the esturies ...so it is far more enviromentally frendly that way..................... If you have ever flown over the Arizona desert, thousands of miles of nothing at a constant 100+ Farenheit. You have to start wondering why they don't just create a massive solar farm, its much cheaper than damming up rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Vince Green said: If you have ever flown over the Arizona desert, thousands of miles of nothing at a constant 100+ Farenheit. You have to start wondering why they don't just create a massive solar farm, its much cheaper than damming up rivers. mustnt upset the eco system.....some elusive iratating fly might die..............................i just shake my head ............ The spanish seem to have the right idea with that new solar collecter thingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 With all of the gas generated in parliament from the incessant bull dung spouted we should be good to power up now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, old man said: With all of the gas generated in parliament from the incessant bull dung spouted we should be good to power up now? then you have got all the subersized al er carte menue's ...pickled eggs and god knows what..................they must have a good extraction unit in the chamber...christ that must stink sometimes.....then in the lords it must be worse....all them old sphinter muscles not working as they should.......dear oh dear oh dear.. like being trapped in a lift with the office dodgy botty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, ditchman said: i am staggered at the ammount of money that will be spent on HS2................... we have a very high tidal reach and a lot of rocky coasts and inlets.............just look at all the electricity that could be harvested on tidal capture....instead we have just one very small scheme that is going to be built........as long as the moon is still there there will be tides...and the tides change / staggered all around the uk particulary around the west coast so demand would be overlapped..........wales could become the electro' centre of the uk and further up the coast...................and with tidal capture you dont need to block up the esturies ...so it is far more enviromentally frendly that way..................... hello, your right on that HS2 and all for 30 minutes or there abouts less travel time, if they spent the money on new HOSPITALS or PRISONS, that would get my vote. but hey look at the chaos now going on with the rail companies and travel times, Edited June 9, 2018 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, your right on that HS2 and all for 30 minutes or there abouts less travel time, if they spent the money on new HOSPITALS or PRISONS, that would get my vote. but hey look at the chaos now going on with the rail companies and travel times, HS2 is not really about cutting down passenger times, I know that's what always gets quoted. I listened to a radio programme about it, the real need is for capacity but if they are going to build it they might as well build it so it can handle 21st century trains. The problem with our railway system, and the chaos you describe, is that we are running a Victorian network that was locked, moribund, for decades in Nationalisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, ditchman said: i am staggered at the ammount of money that will be spent on HS2................... we have a very high tidal reach and a lot of rocky coasts and inlets.............just look at all the electricity that could be harvested on tidal capture....instead we have just one very small scheme that is going to be built........as long as the moon is still there there will be tides...and the tides change / staggered all around the uk particulary around the west coast so demand would be overlapped..........wales could become the electro' centre of the uk and further up the coast...................and with tidal capture you dont need to block up the esturies ...so it is far more enviromentally frendly that way..................... The tidal lagoon planned for Swansea bay is hopefully to be scrapped, massive negative impact on migratory fish in the Tawe, Neath and Afan river systems. The maths do not add up regarding the finances/returns from electricity produced which is why the government will hopefully pull the plug on it. Last but not least building it will **** up my lugworm digging and the hundreds of sea birds that use that patch of shoreline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, hambone said: The tidal lagoon planned for Swansea bay is hopefully to be scrapped, massive negative impact on migratory fish in the Tawe, Neath and Afan river systems. The maths do not add up regarding the finances/returns from electricity produced which is why the government will hopefully pull the plug on it. Last but not least building it will **** up my lugworm digging and the hundreds of sea birds that use that patch of shoreline. cant see why they need to build it there....these tidal capture thingies need to be built from the rocky coast out to sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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