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Hatsan Escort Assembly - help please!


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Hi, I decided to give my son's escort a good clean.

In cleaning the bolt assembly, the part called Locking Block in the manual fell out of the bolt assembly. It's the first time that's happened, but I cannot see how the thing should be retained.

Does it just sit loosely in the bolt?

Or have I lost a part on the floor in the garage??

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Thanks

Rich

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Well, after watching a few YouTube videos, it looks like a small pin of some sort is missing from the hole in the side of the locking block. Hole can be seen above. 

I cannot find the pin anywhere on the floor. Either I've binned it with some paper towel, or it fallen out somewhere else.

I've dropped an email to Edgar brothers. The pin isn't even listed as a part in the user manual.

Rich

 

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21 hours ago, rich_morris said:

Well, after watching a few YouTube videos, it looks like a small pin of some sort is missing from the hole in the side of the locking block. Hole can be seen above. 

I cannot find the pin anywhere on the floor. Either I've binned it with some paper towel, or it fallen out somewhere else.

I've dropped an email to Edgar brothers. The pin isn't even listed as a part in the user manual.

Rich

 

It might be  worth  contacting Wabbitbosher  on here, I know he had some spares  for them.

If you're still stuck, let me know and I'll pop mine apart and see if I have anything similar in the workshop  or can knock one up.

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13 hours ago, Wymondley said:

It might be  worth  contacting Wabbitbosher  on here, I know he had some spares  for them.

If you're still stuck, let me know and I'll pop mine apart and see if I have anything similar in the workshop  or can knock one up.

Thanks for the offer, that is very kind.

I have actually arranged to drop it off locally at a gunsmith.

After speaking with Edgar brothers,  they suggested that a new locking block might solve a couple of other issues I’m having with the gun. Apparently new locking blocks can need a bit of “fitting” to ensure they catch and lock up correctly.

The pin is not available separately.

Regards

Rich

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The locking block is held in by the firing pin running through it which in turn is held in with a headed pin that sits upside down in from below through that hole that you are aware of. This pin fits through the waisted portion of the firing pin.

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54 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

The locking block is held in by the firing pin running through it which in turn is held in with a headed pin that sits upside down in from below through that hole that you are aware of. This pin fits through the waisted portion of the firing pin.

The firing pin only stops the locking block moving downward. The pin which is missing from my locking block stops it coming out the top.

When assembled in the gun, I think it doesn't really do much, as the action/barrel holds it all together.

I'm just not prepared to risk that I'm right with a gun that my son is using.

Rich

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2 hours ago, rich_morris said:

The firing pin only stops the locking block moving downward. The pin which is missing from my locking block stops it coming out the top.

So I think it varies from version to version. I took my Luxano apart and the firing pin holds the block captive (the back "legs" are connected, so the pin slides through rather than resting in, much like this) and there is no hole on the side at all. It seems this is a V1 style. On my Escort (which I think is a V3, external chokes, release on the gate, and long end cap) the block looks the same as yours, except it's held captive downwards by the firing pin, and upwards by a peg seemingly in the same place you have a hole. The the peg looks to be part of the block and non removable, so it seems they changed their design over time. Some mention of it here. Not sure if yours is a third version of some kind.

Seems you probably want to go with what Edgar recommend.

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38 minutes ago, Spoon said:

So I think it varies from version to version. I took my Luxano apart and the firing pin holds the block captive (the back "legs" are connected, so the pin slides through rather than resting in, much like this) and there is no hole on the side at all. It seems this is a V1 style. On my Escort (which I think is a V3, external chokes, release on the gate, and long end cap) the block looks the same as yours, except it's held captive downwards by the firing pin, and upwards by a peg seemingly in the same place you have a hole. The the peg looks to be part of the block and non removable, so it seems they changed their design over time. Some mention of it here. Not sure if yours is a third version of some kind.

Seems you probably want to go with what Edgar recommend.

It's being sent to Edgar brothers to sort out. The gunsmith said they could have difficulty getting the correct part, probably for this reason. Best to send it off, get the right part, and have it fettled to fit as needed.

Edgar brothers suggested that the peg, where I have a hole, is an integral part of the block so shouldn't come out. Sounds like what you have.

I don't think mine is that old, but not sure. It has external chokes. Is there a way to tell?

I guess its all part of "continuous improvement"!

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Same thing happened to my Hatsan semi auto but whilst I was shooting with it!

My local gunsmith supplied and fitted the part for £25. (Philip Webster gunsmiths of Wymondham)

The pics below should help out with the parts you need!

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