Ultrastu Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 That hedge in question can occasionally have live stock behind .it .but i awlays check if there is cattle in the field as i walk past the gate and a quick looks confirms if there is or isnt . On the occasion above there was'nt .and if there is .i dont shoot towards the hedge . Further across the field (75 yds ) it goes steeply upwards about 100 yds elevation into a wood .so unless there is a cow (checked .there wasnt ) the risk to anything other than a fly is ZERO .You asked for opinions on the saftey of the shot .(knowing its a bad shot ) and then are suprised that people think its a bad shot . Wow . 1 hour ago, Ultrastu said: So has that land been passed for .17 hmr .? Or have you decided its suitable on an open ticket. ? This is a simple question .but one you dont feel comfortable answering. I wonder why .? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 You said you used the air rifle because it was a lower risk than the 22LR. If the risk is zero then you could have used the rimfire but you stated it wasn't safe enough. This is a shot you took, not one where you decided not to. You have admitted on a public forum to taking a dangerous shot where your pellet could have easily crossed the boundary of your permission (an offence in itself). Wow yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Yeah ? The above shows your lack of understanding of ricochet of certain calibres , energy retention and fallout range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Getting back to the subject. The challene for me would be getting myself into a better position, closer without the rabbit being aware....it's called ability to stalk and hunt, not long range shooting. Similar this afternoon, I saw a tree rat in an open ride in my wood, I only had my AA s200 with me so needed to close the gap from 80yrds down to sub 20 to get a clean head shot. It took me a while but by using what cover there was and moving extremely slowly, stopping when the TR picked it's head up, I closed the gap and actually climbed the stairs in open view to the squirrel, into the raised cabin I have there, and made the shot. I'm no chicken and crawling like a racing snake is not something I do easily these days, but that shot gave me more satisfaction than any 2 -3-400yrd shot ever would. There again 14yrs training probably helped and 70yrs of practise. Edited June 21, 2018 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's fun feeding the trolls especially when they're in the wrong. All this fuss over a shot I didn't take. I admit I also didn't shoot at the local primary school with my .308 and I also quite avoided using my .223 in Waitrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, spandit said: It's fun feeding the trolls especially when they're in the wrong. All this fuss over a shot I didn't take. I admit I also didn't shoot at the local primary school with my .308 and I also quite avoided using my .223 in Waitrose. Now that is a good outcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I used to shoot on ALDI car park . I’m not kidding . it was really strange and I gave it up in the end. the landowners asked me to shoot them as they lived in the brambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, team tractor said: I used to shoot on ALDI car park . I’m not kidding . it was really strange and I gave it up in the end. the landowners asked me to shoot them as they lived in the brambles. ? Who was the ALDI car park landowner? ALDI?....was that not an open public access area?....sounds a bit iffy to me! Please elaborate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, panoma1 said: ? Who was the ALDI car park landowner? ALDI?....was that not an open public access area?....sounds a bit iffy to me! Please elaborate! The land was rented to ALDI but had barriers and security. Not a retail premises. It was quiet cool walking past security with a rifle. I only used air rifle there tho. the staff were meant to be gone at 8pm but rarely were so I gave it up. i have really strange permissions everywhere like rental buildings on the ferals , industrial yards and units . Edited June 21, 2018 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I wonder how many people who answered hold FAC? To be honest, safety aside, shooting anywhere near the public isn’t worth the aggro. if the pub wasn’t there, and it was livestock in the field behind, having experience of HMR anc how difficult it would be to miss at 50M and assuming like my farmers the land holder asked me to smash the rabbit numbers ...I’d take the shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, team tractor said: I used to shoot on ALDI car park . I’m not kidding . it was really strange and I gave it up in the end. the landowners asked me to shoot them as they lived in the brambles. The landowners asked you to shoot them? Blimey! 15 minutes ago, PPP said: I wonder how many people who answered hold FAC? To be honest, safety aside, shooting anywhere near the public isn’t worth the aggro. if the pub wasn’t there, and it was livestock in the field behind, having experience of HMR anc how difficult it would be to miss at 50M and assuming like my farmers the land holder asked me to smash the rabbit numbers ...I’d take the shot I would bet almost all who replied hold a Fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 9 hours ago, motty said: I would bet almost all who replied hold a Fac. I don't!..........I handed it back last year, after over forty years!....still have my SGC though! 10 hours ago, team tractor said: The land was rented to ALDI but had barriers and security. Not a retail premises. It was quiet cool walking past security with a rifle. I only used air rifle there tho. the staff were meant to be gone at 8pm but rarely were so I gave it up. i have really strange permissions everywhere like rental buildings on the ferals , industrial yards and units . Thanks for clarifying that!........Phew!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 21 hours ago, spandit said: It's fun feeding the trolls especially when they're in the wrong. All this fuss over a shot I didn't take. I admit I also didn't shoot at the local primary school with my .308 and I also quite avoided using my .223 in Waitrose. All this thread was going to do is cause an argument the MODS should have jumped on it straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: All this thread was going to do is cause an argument the MODS should have jumped on it straight away It's no different from the questions they ask you in DSC1. Can't lock every thread due to a disagreement arising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: All this thread was going to do is cause an argument the MODS should have jumped on it straight away You want us to go around pre-emptively shutting threads in case they turn into an argument? That's brilliant. I'm sure everyone would love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 If the henchmen locked every thread that might turn into an argument there would be about 3 threads left running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 It's not a shot I would entertain from that angle (even with an air rifle, the odds of attracting the wrong attention i feel are too high) but I suspect if I moved a way to the right to might become viable depending what is left of the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 the sound of a rifle shot within the hearing distance of the general british public ....do not mix...whether it is a legal safe shot or not.............when i had a firearms liecence it was me ...my rifle and my quarry....and nobody else...for me hunting any quarry was a private matter............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clodhopper Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think this is a brilliant post and what the forum is about, namely sharing ideas and experience. For those people who are getting into the sport and do not have the luxury of having a family member/ friend to teach them then posts like this are useful ways to pass on ideas and experience. I am am at a loss as to why some people feel Op should be reported to his FEO for posting, maybe I am missing some thing but when I last checked asking questions would not but you in breach of firearms conditions? Maybe I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, ditchman said: the sound of a rifle shot within the hearing distance of the general british public ....do not mix...whether it is a legal safe shot or not.............when i had a firearms liecence it was me ...my rifle and my quarry....and nobody else...for me hunting any quarry was a private matter............... I don't really agree with this. If that was the case, I would have missed out on a lot of the shooting I have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I'm not ashamed of my shooting and although I don't want to cause a nuisance, it's a natural part of living in the countryside. Had a friend firing an unmoderated centrefire (.308) about 100 yards away and it wasn't that loud. I doubt my moderated HMR would even be heard above the general hubbub in a pub garden 150 yards distant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, motty said: I don't really agree with this. If that was the case, I would have missed out on a lot of the shooting I have done. dont get me wrong ...each to his own...........shotgun.is a different matter..........ive lost count of the indirect complaints ive had...usually goes to the farmer.. or farmers wife tells them to get lost...im about my lawful buisness........... shooting with a rifle is a different matter...its about peoples perception..particually in this day and age and "unsettled" climate we are enduring.....i never shot with a moderator..i hated the idea of threading a large tube on the end of a beautifully made machine...........the fact most people rifle shoot with a moderator now...tells you shooters are more aware... anyway thats my 2 pence worth thats all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, motty said: I don't really agree with this Quick! Lock the thread! Could the general public really distinguish between a rifle and a shotgun report? I agree that moderators ruin the look and balance of rifles but if it helps to protect my hearing too then that's another reason for using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 9 hours ago, spandit said: Quick! Lock the thread! Could the general public really distinguish between a rifle and a shotgun report? I agree that moderators ruin the look and balance of rifles but if it helps to protect my hearing too then that's another reason for using one. Exactly my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 I didn’t put a mod’ on my BDL as I thought it would spoil the lines of what to me is one of the best looking rifles ever made. On my T3 I wasn’t too fussed, and when a member of the licensing team suggested I add one for the sake of my hearing, I thought, yeah, why not. I doubt any member of the general public could tell a rifle shot from a shotgun, but there again I don’t care either. There isn’t a day goes by in this neck of the woods that a shot of some kind isn’t heard. Moderators don’t stop anyone but the shooter from hearing that sonic crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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