chrisjpainter Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44575929 I voted remain, and would do so again - but not at the expense of democracy. Remain lost, now it's time to show a united country, not bicker and argue about it. What possible good can come out of this? A second referendum is a disastrous idea. I see Baldrick's in on it. Would this be one of his cunning plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Well we do conduct ourselves in a supposed democracy and with free speech and expression. Let them have a nice walk, a few remoaning speeches and lets get another day closer to 29th March 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: I voted remain, and would do so again - but not at the expense of democracy. Remain lost, now it's time to show a united country, not bicker and argue about it. What possible good can come out of this? A second referendum is a disastrous idea. I agree and am much the same, except IF there was a second referendum I would now vote leave. Reason: We have learned more about the EU's attitude - most of which has been very negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 The Southampton branch of ukip say there is another march today for Brexit. It's good to know all the media are not promoting any pro Brexit or free Tommy marches where there is massive coverage for anti Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 like you sportsbob I think the media will be all over the remain march and big it upp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Both marches are completely and utterly pointless. Guess what folks .. we have a divided country .. no **** Sherlock !! If only people could put their energy into finding the common ground and getting a deal that gives us the best chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: I agree and am much the same, except IF there was a second referendum I would now vote leave. Reason: We have learned more about the EU's attitude - most of which has been very negative. My position exactly. At least by voting remain we can be smug if it all falls apart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 A sign of the times? A few unelecteds threatening a Sovereign Country over our wish to discontinue closer political union, good stuff for a childrens book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 16 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44575929 I voted remain, and would do so again - but not at the expense of democracy. Remain lost, now it's time to show a united country, not bicker and argue about it. What possible good can come out of this? A second referendum is a disastrous idea. I see Baldrick's in on it. Would this be one of his cunning plans? Good on you, if only more where like you, everyone should be able to have their own opinions and have a say at the voting booth but a democratic decision should always be respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44575929 I voted remain, and would do so again - but not at the expense of democracy. Remain lost, now it's time to show a united country, not bicker and argue about it. What possible good can come out of this? A second referendum is a disastrous idea. I see Baldrick's in on it. Would this be one of his cunning plans? Well said that man, I also voted remain but let’s get on with it. Edited June 23, 2018 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Just sick of it now roll on March 2019 and lets start a new chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 These marches are being organised by the mob that George Soros gave all that money to presumably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vince Green said: These marches are being organised by the mob that George Soros gave all that money to presumably? There's little doubt of his involvement to some degree. Makes you wonder what his aims are really, he funds antifa , black lives matter , various refugee NGOs flooding Europe with economic migrants, anti capitalist movements, and as we know ,chucks a substantial amount of money at overturning Brexit. A cynical person would think he was trying very hard to destabilise certain western countries ? Reminds me of Blofeld in SPECTRE, in the recent James bond films ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rewulf said: There's little doubt of his involvement to some degree. Makes you wonder what his aims are really, he funds antifa , black lives matter , various refugee NGOs flooding Europe with economic migrants, anti capitalist movements, and as we know ,chucks a substantial amount of money at overturning Brexit. A cynical person would think he was trying very hard to destabilise certain western countries ? Reminds me of Blofeld in SPECTRE, in the recent James bond films ? It must help him sleep at night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: It must help him sleep at night! Ever wondered how these people fleeing war and persecution, arrive on the beach after a hazardous sea crossing, with a charged smartphone, with international roaming and internet enabled ? Ever wonder how they get the thousand's needed to pay the people smugglers? Edited June 26, 2018 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Oh I agree, there is far more to this than the "lilly livered let them all in" types will want you to believe. The basic EU principle of claiming asylum in the fist place of safety you reach has never been enforced. As has been said many times, the vast majority are young fit males running away from their countries rather than sort the problem out. As a once proud country willing to assist the world sort its problems out, we are rapidly becoming the soft touch take 'em all in place that will spoil what we all were once enjoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Ever wondered how these people fleeing war and persecution, arrive on the beach after a hazardous sea crossing, with a charged smartphone, with international roaming and internet enabled ? Ever wonder how they get the thousand's needed to pay the people smugglers? Lucky they all had the numbers of the rescue NGOs programmed into the phones before they set off. That's really a bit of a giveaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Lucky they all had the numbers of the rescue NGOs programmed into the phones before they set off. That's really a bit of a giveaway. The NGO ships are in contact with those nasty people smugglers, that's an established fact. Collusion with criminals,I would call it. Establishing a refugees highway between Libya and Italy. The NGOs say they are saving lives by meeting the smugglers boats, but all they are doing is making the lives and incomes easier for the traffickers,who are often linked to terrorism. So whoever is funding the NGO ships, is indirectly funding terrorists. Malta ,it would seem doesn't take a single refugee, and the ships don't even try to dock there, go figure that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) This is one possible explanation. "kalergi plan" A Google link https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=OCEyW8WcMpHdgQarqoGgBQ&q=kalergi+plan&oq=kalergi&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l10.1843.4488.0.7106.7.7.0.0.0.0.79.452.7.7.0..2..0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.7.450...0i131k1.0._45MoydRHlc Edited June 26, 2018 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I do giggle when I see the lengths the remoaners are going to try to remain in the grip of an unelected commission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Rewulf said: The NGO ships are in contact with those nasty people smugglers, that's an established fact. Collusion with criminals,I would call it. Establishing a refugees highway between Libya and Italy. The NGOs say they are saving lives by meeting the smugglers boats, but all they are doing is making the lives and incomes easier for the traffickers,who are often linked to terrorism. So whoever is funding the NGO ships, is indirectly funding terrorists. Malta ,it would seem doesn't take a single refugee, and the ships don't even try to dock there, go figure that one. And Italy is going that way, how long until Spain call foul as they will be getting all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Last year sometime, After watching news footage of a so called refugee interviewed after coming ashore somewhere, I pointed out, and asked the question , how come she has life in what looked like an iPhone? She was wailing for the children she’d left behind ( no tears mind you ) and waiving around her mobile, and was then seen in the background talking on her phone. Is it me? A workmate who travels to and from Malta frequently informs me that nowadays the island is largely controlled by Mafia. I don’t know if there’s any truth in it. Edited June 26, 2018 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, sportsbob said: This is one possible explanation. "kalergi plan" A Google link https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=OCEyW8WcMpHdgQarqoGgBQ&q=kalergi+plan&oq=kalergi&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l10.1843.4488.0.7106.7.7.0.0.0.0.79.452.7.7.0..2..0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.7.450...0i131k1.0._45MoydRHlc The EU calls in their top negotiater.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Correct me but didn't 400,000 of us march against the hunting bill. It certainly put this in the shade. I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Scully said: Is it me? No; you have to remember that actually these people are the 'get up and go' ones in their society. They aren't really 'refugees' at all. They are the modern equivalent of all of the many migrants who populated America (and other places) - heading off to try to better themselves overseas. By implication they are usually fairly reasonably well off (by their local standards), usually intelligent, and often have a good foreign language (often English) and are going where they believe there is 'a better life'. They see a better future in Europe (and possibly specific countries within Europe) than they have or are ever likely to have in their own countries. Whether this is the generous benefits system (about which they are usually well informed), the better standard of living, or the poor and corrupt society they are leaving that motivates them isn't really clear, but they are economic migrants not refugees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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