Green hornet Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I want to get myself a new air rifle on fac but I want to get a break barrel.Does anyone know of any good makes that come in 25calibre?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Surely an FAC rated springer would be very inaccurate or break itself apart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, DC177 said: Surely an FAC rated springer would be very inaccurate or break itself apart! Far from it. Webley patriot and the HW80s both very good FAC Air rifles.But then i bet your too young to know about these or you would not have made such a comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 If you want to know how good fac springers are go on utube and watch the americans shoot thiers . They tend to get excited if they shoot a 2 inch group at 30 yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dougy said: Far from it. Webley patriot and the HW80s both very good FAC Air rifles.But then i bet your too young to know about these or you would not have made such a comment. I've never seen one but then I'm only 50. The whole concept of an FAC-rated springer makes no sense since the sweet-spot for springers is around 10.5ftlbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DC177 said: I've never seen one but then I'm only 50. The whole concept of an FAC-rated springer makes no sense since the sweet-spot for springers is around 10.5ftlbs. Not always, I own a .22 HW90 which was utterly unshootable when new doing 20+ ft lbs, it is now absolutely superb once I tapped out enough air to drop it to 15.5 ft lbs, I have seen home tuned HW80 running at 18 which was very accurate and the same gun could be pushed to 22 ft lbs but the trigger jarred badly then and did little for the groups either. I also own an untouched HW80 in .177 which throws pellets out at 1000 fps ?, not particularly nice to shoot admittedly but the accuracy seems acceptable and I have no doubt would run perfectly well once de-tuned to say 15 ft lbs. As for the original question I bet there are some Theoben Eliminators which were available in .25 and by all accounts perfectly good performers. My own choice if I absolutely had to have a FAC break barrel would be to hunt down a now discontinued Air Arms Pro Elite but finding one in .25 would be very hard I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 As the saying goes: “You live and learn.” ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Hamster said: Theoben Eliminators i was going to say this, you also got bsa supersports in .25 fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 also Blackpool air guns had a HW90 i think in .25, not fac but guessing you could change that, if there site is up to date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Never had much time if any for gas rams but surely they must be useful at fac levels. Personally I'd go eliminator route too. And to be fair most yanks whoop and shout when they hit a coke can at 30 yards. They just chuck more rounds down stream, the more the better. Not saying they ain't good shots, but when they are using a gamo at 20 odd ftlb it was a **** start to begin with. Quite the divide on the pcp and springer lot on here. Me included ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Had a Theoben Eliminator back in the day, needed arms like popeye to cock it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Hamster said: Not always, I own a .22 HW90 which was utterly unshootable when new doing 20+ ft lbs, it is now absolutely superb once I tapped out enough air to drop it to 15.5 ft lbs, I have seen home tuned HW80 running at 18 which was very accurate and the same gun could be pushed to 22 ft lbs but the trigger jarred badly then and did little for the groups either. I also own an untouched HW80 in .177 which throws pellets out at 1000 fps ?, not particularly nice to shoot admittedly but the accuracy seems acceptable and I have no doubt would run perfectly well once de-tuned to say 15 ft lbs. As for the original question I bet there are some Theoben Eliminators which were available in .25 and by all accounts perfectly good performers. My own choice if I absolutely had to have a FAC break barrel would be to hunt down a now discontinued Air Arms Pro Elite but finding one in .25 would be very hard I imagine. My HW80 was running AT 22 ft lbs and accurate. Maccari tuning kit. Experiment over its now back to 11.5 ft lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 I never owned it but my mate had an Eliminator in .22 and yes you neede to eat your Weetabix to cock it but it was very accurate as it recall and easy to shoot. If you can find a .25 version I’m confident it would also be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) Good luck and I hope it all works for you but a .25/Spinger/Break barrel/FAC is not for most people! Edited July 8, 2018 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Have to agree with dekers .a .25 cal fac springer is a very specialist tool and im not sure where it fits in as " being the best tool for the job" (what ever that job is ? ) Put it like this . The lightest pellet available is the .25 h+n ftt at 20 grns .. the top realistic power you could get (and its gonna be hard to cock and harder to shoot ) is around 22 fpe . This makes the ftt pellet shoot at 700 fps .which is very slow for a fac airgun..and slow for a sub 12 .177 ( 800 fps area ) .and only just a bit faster than sub 12 .22 which are around 600 fps. So in trajectory terms the fac .25 at 22 fpe .is poor. .in energy transfer terms .it would be ok . Penetrating quite well and hitting pretty hard .so if you wanted to say smack ferels hard in a barn this would be pretty good tool . But it wont do much over what a sub .12 .177 or .22 can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 hello, there is a Webley .25 FAC in Towers of Rochdale shop at £220, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Did you go down the break barrel route in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green hornet Posted July 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Thanks for the reply’s guys I ended up changing the slot for a 22 instead of a 25.I’ve Also purchased a pcp theoben rapid fac running at 39ftlbs.I’m very pleased with it so far just needs a service as it hasn’t had one Since new. I used to have a sub 12 version many years ago and that was a very good airgun that I regretted selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameking Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 06/07/2018 at 14:40, Hamster said: Not always, I own a .22 HW90 which was utterly unshootable when new doing 20+ ft lbs, it is now absolutely superb once I tapped out enough air to drop it to 15.5 ft lbs, I have seen home tuned HW80 running at 18 which was very accurate and the same gun could be pushed to 22 ft lbs but the trigger jarred badly then and did little for the groups either. I also own an untouched HW80 in .177 which throws pellets out at 1000 fps ?, not particularly nice to shoot admittedly but the accuracy seems acceptable and I have no doubt would run perfectly well once de-tuned to say 15 ft lbs. As for the original question I bet there are some Theoben Eliminators which were available in .25 and by all accounts perfectly good performers. My own choice if I absolutely had to have a FAC break barrel would be to hunt down a now discontinued Air Arms Pro Elite but finding one in .25 would be very hard I imagine. Pro Elite was not made in .25 !!!! FAC / Export versions for the States were .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Green hornet said: Thanks for the reply’s guys I ended up changing the slot for a 22 instead of a 25.I’ve Also purchased a pcp theoben rapid fac running at 39ftlbs.I’m very pleased with it so far just needs a service as it hasn’t had one Since new. I used to have a sub 12 version many years ago and that was a very good airgun that I regretted selling. Love it, i want a break barrel FAC so ive bought a RAPID ? welcome to the gang, the rapid 7 forum is really good for all things rapid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green hornet Posted July 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Thanks mice I didn’t realise they had a forum for them I will be joining that.Lol yeah at first I thought the brake barrel would be less Agro no air to worry about but after seeing the reply’s and looking Into it alittle more I decided pcp and 22 be better suited for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 yes you have to go on to the site, then click on sign up and send an email, as the title suggests its mostly Rapid 7 talk but the stuff they know is mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 We all have different sites/applications/opinions but I think you will find a .22 FAC Rapid 7 far more versatile/useful than a .25 FAC Break barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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