Brexit - merged threads

[pinfireman]

But many Swedes see it as a EU problem, and I doubt you would convince them otherwise. It,s going to be an interesting ride................all that,s needed is another wave of illegal immigration into the southern EU states.....

[Rewulf]

Veterans for Britain@VeteransBritain

 

 

Good to see EU flags REMOVED from the uniforms of British soldiers in Bosnia after it caused outrage in the UK.
They’re replaced by op badges or nothing.
Those keen to normalise the EU branding of HM Armed Forces claimed EU flags were an ‘essential identifier’. Apparently not so.

11:00 - 9 Sep 2018

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[dead eye alan]

So the barmy man says could be deal done by November, thats a bit of a change from bis normal negative stance!

[matone]

On 10/09/2018 at 15:07, Rewulf said:

Veterans for Britain@VeteransBritain

 

 

Good to see EU flags REMOVED from the uniforms of British soldiers in Bosnia after it caused outrage in the UK.
They’re replaced by op badges or nothing.
Those keen to normalise the EU branding of HM Armed Forces claimed EU flags were an ‘essential identifier’. Apparently not so.

11:00 - 9 Sep 2018

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Good !!! Should never have been anything else!

[Rewulf]

The EU parliament has just voted to pave the way for using article 7 on Hungary.
The Commission will now vote on it, but thats really a formality.
This will then allow Hungarys voting rights to be suspended, and possible sanctions to be implemented.
All due to Hungarys 'flagrant breaches of EU laws'

Roll on..

[TIGHTCHOKE]

6 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

The EU parliament has just voted to pave the way for using article 7 on Hungary.
The Commission will now vote on it, but thats really a formality.
This will then allow Hungarys voting rights to be suspended, and possible sanctions to be implemented.
All due to Hungarys 'flagrant breaches of EU laws'

Roll on..

Watching and waiting! but not holding my breath.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Good to see this amazingly arrogant man still going at it!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-juncker-highlights/junckers-state-of-the-union-speech-to-european-parliament-idUSKCN1LS0VP

[Rewulf]

30 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Good to see this amazingly arrogant man still going at it!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-juncker-highlights/junckers-state-of-the-union-speech-to-european-parliament-idUSKCN1LS0VP

Same old story.
Where the EU project isnt working, we will give you more EU !
You WILL assimilate !

[TIGHTCHOKE]

He does make me laugh when he says he doesn't like the term Superpower!

[Rewulf]

A light refreshing look at the story so far ,from the ever entertaining Mr Condell. 

 

[Newbie to this]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

A light refreshing look at the story so far ,from the ever entertaining Mr Condell. 

 

Good video, he speaks a lot of truth.

[Retsdon]

5 hours ago, Newbie to this said:

Good video, he speaks a lot of truth.

No he doesn't. He says nothing - just repeats a lot of self-pitying canards before throwing in a lot of snide ad hominems for ironic effect. He might just as well be miming along to something he made in 1915. 

Meanwhile, the clock has kept going round and round and the fact is that unless May comes up quick sharp with a feasible proposal or, from compassion, the EU grants an extension to the leaving date, in March Britain is set to throw out seamless trading ties for 40 percent of its business. Not to mention that nearly all the permissions, standards, protocols, etc that have, for 40 years largely underpinned our relationship with the rest of the world by virtue of having been negotiated under the EU will go out of the window with them and will need to be painstakingly rewritten one by one.

No, none of these minor details bother our intrepid hero in the video because he never listens to people who might not share his opinion or reflects on what they say. Far easier to insult them and close his ears. A university education would have helped him in this regard - but hey ho.

Nonetheless, 'facts are chiels' and in 6 months - unless everyone from the trade unions, to the banks, to industrial manufacturers,  to agri business, etc' etc are all completely wrong in their predictions- the UK is very likely facing a economic tsunami with follow up waves of incalculable permutations lasting an unknowable time. 

But what do these experts know about their own livelihoods anything? And don't forget, they've all been wrong at some point in the past about something or other spo they can be safely ignored forever  (as if having being wrong about A invariably means being wrong about a different B, C,D, into infinity). Absurd...but enter our hero in the movie.

There's a saying to describe this attitude. It's called 'the arrogance of ignorance', and this rather unpleasant individual is a perfect personification. Like they say, if it walks like a duck, etc, etc...

 

[12gauge82]

8 hours ago, Rewulf said:

A light refreshing look at the story so far ,from the ever entertaining Mr Condell. 

 

+1 

[martindd]

24 minutes ago, Retsdon said:

A university education would have helped him in this regard - but hey ho.

Wow

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Oh the irony!

[Bazooka Joe]

Well said that man.......from a little Englander.

[Scully]

9 hours ago, Rewulf said:

A light refreshing look at the story so far ,from the ever entertaining Mr Condell. 

 

I enjoyed that. Well said...sums up the remoaners for me. 👍

[Retsdon]

51 minutes ago, martindd said:

Wow

Why wow? The man sneers at 'useless' humanities courses. But learning to step back to critically assess and reassess the worth and weight of differing evidence or opinion - including one's own -  is fundamental to the development of ideas and is one of the first and most important things people at university learn how to do.

Compare his rant to the words of someone who has clearly thought hard about what he's saying, knows what he's talking about and who is not grinding an axe with earmuffs on.

http://www.eureferendum.com/documents/RogersDublin.pdf

Rogers speech in Dublin should be required reading. It is what proper Brexit discussion should look like.

[Bazooka Joe]

Quote

Compare his rant to the words of someone who has clearly thought hard about what he's saying,

I don't see it as a rant, everything he says about the attitude of the snowflakes is so true.

[Scully]

Just now, Bazooka Joe said:

I don't see it as a rant, everything he says about the attitude of the snowflakes is so true.

Ditto.

20 minutes ago, Retsdon said:

Why wow? The man sneers at 'useless' humanities courses. But learning to step back to critically assess and reassess the worth and weight of differing evidence or opinion - including one's own -  is fundamental to the development of ideas and is one of the first and most important things people at university learn how to do.

Compare his rant to the words of someone who has clearly thought hard about what he's saying, knows what he's talking about and who is not grinding an axe with earmuffs on.

http://www.eureferendum.com/documents/RogersDublin.pdf

Rogers speech in Dublin should be required reading. It is what proper Brexit discussion should look like.

The parts I've highlighted above describes succinctly the arrogance and attitude the typical ( university educated ? ) remainer has for those of us whom voted to leave, by simply dismissing our opinions and ideas outright, usually by declaring us as everything Mr Condell has described. Ironic eh? 

 

[Gordon R]

Retsdon - the day you are bright enough to lace his boots is a day which will never dawn. He talks sense - you don't.

Edited September 16, 2018 by Gordon R

[Newbie to this]

11 hours ago, Retsdon said:

No he doesn't. He says nothing - just repeats a lot of self-pitying canards before throwing in a lot of snide ad hominems for ironic effect. He might just as well be miming along to something he made in 1915. 

Meanwhile, the clock has kept going round and round and the fact is that unless May comes up quick sharp with a feasible proposal or, from compassion, the EU grants an extension to the leaving date, in March Britain is set to throw out seamless trading ties for 40 percent of its business. Not to mention that nearly all the permissions, standards, protocols, etc that have, for 40 years largely underpinned our relationship with the rest of the world by virtue of having been negotiated under the EU will go out of the window with them and will need to be painstakingly rewritten one by one.

No, none of these minor details bother our intrepid hero in the video because he never listens to people who might not share his opinion or reflects on what they say. Far easier to insult them and close his ears. A university education would have helped him in this regard - but hey ho.

Nonetheless, 'facts are chiels' and in 6 months - unless everyone from the trade unions, to the banks, to industrial manufacturers,  to agri business, etc' etc are all completely wrong in their predictions- the UK is very likely facing a economic tsunami with follow up waves of incalculable permutations lasting an unknowable time. 

But what do these experts know about their own livelihoods anything? And don't forget, they've all been wrong at some point in the past about something or other spo they can be safely ignored forever  (as if having being wrong about A invariably means being wrong about a different B, C,D, into infinity). Absurd...but enter our hero in the movie.

There's a saying to describe this attitude. It's called 'the arrogance of ignorance', and this rather unpleasant individual is a perfect personification. Like they say, if it walks like a duck, etc, etc...

 

You're sort of proving everthing he was saying in the video.

And you keep talking of so called experts, but only the ones who back up your argument.

Remember the World is a big place and Britain was holding its own well before the EU was even a pipe dream.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Newbie to this

[dead eye alan]

10 hours ago, Scully said:

I enjoyed that. Well said...sums up the remoaners for me. 👍

Totaly but thy just dont get it.

[Rewulf]

11 hours ago, Retsdon said:

Why wow? The man sneers at 'useless' humanities courses. But learning to step back to critically assess and reassess the worth and weight of differing evidence or opinion - including one's own -  is fundamental to the development of ideas and is one of the first and most important things people at university learn how to do.

Compare his rant to the words of someone who has clearly thought hard about what he's saying, knows what he's talking about and who is not grinding an axe with earmuffs on.

 

So people who havnt been to uni dont know how to do this ?
As said , you are just reinforcing Condells assessment .
And yes, 'some' humanities courses are useless, not all, but some.

[Retsdon]

5 hours ago, Scully said:

The parts I've highlighted above describes succinctly the arrogance and attitude the typical ( university educated ? ) remainer has for those of us whom voted to leave, by simply dismissing our opinions and ideas outright, usually by declaring us as everything Mr Condell has described. Ironic eh? 

I've said it before. I''m almost certain that I would have voted leave if I'd been in residence and had a vote. I didn't like the EU and still don't. But in retrospect I think my vote would have been wrong. As the time draws closer, it seems like the wolf is set to be even bigger and badder than 'Project Fear' were claiming, and at the same time as a minnow in a world of pike-sized trade blocs  'the taking back control' hope is looking increasingly chimerical. Out in the real world, the little people don't control much of anything at all  But we'll see. Here's hoping that I'm wrong and being unduly pessimistic. 

As for your man Condell, there's something nasty about him that rubs me up the wrong way. Why the gratuitous sneers at people who study 'useless' degrees? His hatred and contempt in that regard puts him in some pretty dubious company - Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot too were notoriously vehement in their condemnation of 'useless intellectuals', with their carping objections to a Great Project. Besides which, literature, music, history, language, religion and philosophy are an integral part of what makes us who we are. So where's the objection to studying them? No, the man's a throwback to the worst kind of communist/stalinist anti-intellectual. Never did care for those sorts of people. Destructive...