Remimax Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: I suspect the "deal" will disappoint everyone and please no one? My personal thoughts are, we had a democratic referendum which voted leave, there can be no rerun of the referendum......that is done! The only vote the country should have now is whether to accept the "deal" our government "negotiated" with the EU.........or just leave! yes lets all get ready to fall in line and touch are toes for the EU cos thats all i can see happening with this bunch of snowflakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just seen the news, Rees mog, and al Campbell in agreement that it’s all a load of manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) I personally hope it is a deal worth doing, unfortunately I feel it will be a complete cop out by Mrs May! It would appear the 1922 committee are awaiting some postal deliveries! Edited November 14, 2018 by TIGHTCHOKE Syntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Let's hope that if it is a bad deal, the cabinet grow a backbone and vote it down. But I fear there are too many remainers in the cabinet and parliament. I fear a bad deal is on the horizon. It seems that when May said, no deal is better than a bad deal, She got them around the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Meanwhile, regardless of any deal, across the water they're already divvying up the windfall. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2018/html/ecb.sp181113_2.en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) The spineless cabinet have backed her bad deal. More worried about their jobs and wallet. Edited November 14, 2018 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I suspect the cabinet were always going to endorse the "deal" I further suspect it's a carp deal because it has been made so, deliberately! It's what the politicians (both ours and the EU's) always planned, then they (fronted by May) can blame parliament, when they kick it into touch!........project fear has all along (and is still) being used to frighten the electorate, with the threat of a "cliff edge" no deal Brexit, and the "dire consequences" this will allegedly bring.....consequences which, for the good of the country, parliament won't allow to happen!........on this basis they will "give" the electorate another chance to get the "right" result! Conspiracy theory? I hope I'm wrong? But even if I'm right, and there is an undemocratic referendum re run?............If I vote? I will again vote leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Me too x 1000 how could anyone vote to stay after the total contempt they have treated us with, we are simply a cash cow and a dumping ground for their unemployed dross!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, panoma1 said: I suspect the cabinet were always going to endorse the "deal" I further suspect it's a carp deal because it has been made so, deliberately! It's what the politicians (both ours and the EU's) always planned, then they (fronted by May) can blame parliament, when they kick it into touch!........project fear has all along (and is still) being used to frighten the electorate, with the threat of a "cliff edge" no deal Brexit, and the "dire consequences" this will allegedly bring.....consequences which, for the good of the country, parliament won't allow to happen!........on this basis they will "give" the electorate another chance to get the "right" result! Conspiracy theory? I hope I'm wrong? But even if I'm right, and there is an undemocratic referendum re run?............If I vote? I will again vote leave! Sounds quite feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 A letter from Jacob Rees-Mogg to other Conservatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) We've been "sold down the river" (royally). Laura Kuenssberg must have worn herself out yesterday! Edited November 15, 2018 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Possibly been said long thread, But if no Brexit....would that not mean we live in a dictatorship. Your allowed to vote then we will do what we want...…..government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 10 hours ago, panoma1 said: I suspect the cabinet were always going to endorse the "deal" I further suspect it's a carp deal because it has been made so, deliberately! It's what the politicians (both ours and the EU's) always planned, then they (fronted by May) can blame parliament, when they kick it into touch!........project fear has all along (and is still) being used to frighten the electorate, with the threat of a "cliff edge" no deal Brexit, and the "dire consequences" this will allegedly bring.....consequences which, for the good of the country, parliament won't allow to happen!........on this basis they will "give" the electorate another chance to get the "right" result! Conspiracy theory? I hope I'm wrong? But even if I'm right, and there is an undemocratic referendum re run?............If I vote? I will again vote leave! I don't think there will be a second referendum. I think the game now for Appeaser May is to spin this out as long as possible, for she controls the timetable. When it eventually comes before parliament, the argument will be back this deal or chaos will ensue because no preparations have been made for a no deal Brexit. Project fear will then be used on MP's to decide their vote. She needs to go, and go soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) As this all begins to settle down will we see a multitude of mail for the 1922 Committee and will we see any resignations? Esther McVey, Penny Mordant and possibly Dominic Raab must be close to jumping ship. My MP Shailesh Vara has resigned. He was a Northern Ireland Minister. Edited November 15, 2018 by TIGHTCHOKE Note of first resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 They need to rid us of this treacherous woman quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 May and the cabinet are now saying there are not two, but THREE options... 1) The "deal" 2) No deal 3) ANOTHER REFERENDUM...... Well there's a surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 One very large cop out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 The third option wasn't another referendum, she mentioned it last night, the third option is 'no brexit at all'. Watch as this builds into the new narrative. It will be a case of 'this is such a bad deal, we're better off staying in'. It was always going to be the outcome, May and her team have played a blinder in stringing everyone along when this was the ultimate goal. It's final stages now, they just have to steer this thing a little longer into us staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, mick miller said: The third option wasn't another referendum, she mentioned it last night, the third option is 'no brexit at all'. Watch as this builds into the new narrative. It will be a case of 'this is such a bad deal, we're better off staying in'. It was always going to be the outcome, May and her team have played a blinder in stringing everyone along when this was the ultimate goal. It's final stages now, they just have to steer this thing a little longer into us staying put. Sadly I feel you are quite correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Sadly I feel you are quite correct. I'm right. I said at the outset, if we leave the EU, as a result of the referendum, I'll eat my own feet. I was confident I'd still be needing shoes in three years time. It wasn't the result 'they' wanted or expected. As for Mogg, Johnson et al; fat bags of wind without a set of balls between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, mick miller said: As for Mogg, Johnson et al; fat bags of wind Umm - I don't think I would call Mogg 'fat'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Raab's gone, here comes the whole house of cards, surely Mrs May is running on borrowed time now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 It's the snippets that leak out that are telling. It turns out there is text on the customs union arrangement to say that this will be built on. Both parties said we would leave the customs union, this document is saying we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 The Labour party regulars are having a feeding frenzy over this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: The Labour party regulars are having a feeding frenzy over this! What do you expect the Conservative party have now shown there true colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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