wyn Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Four Welsh Assembly members have just joined the Brexit party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, wyn said: Four Welsh Assembly members have just joined the Brexit party. I was just telling someone about the upcoming election on the 23 rd , and noticed that 14 UKIP MEPs are now Brexit Party defectors, virtually all of UKIPs MEPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I was just telling someone about the upcoming election on the 23 rd , and noticed that 14 UKIP MEPs are now Brexit Party defectors, virtually all of UKIPs MEPS. Well at least that way they stand a chance and are not splitting the voting! Edited May 15, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE SYNTAX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well at least that way they stand a chance and are not splitting the voting! Very sensible ! Hopefully they wont be sitting there very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Scully said: https://ibb.co/jrv7Ltm Mmmm now, let me see......🤔 😀 Sobering, it's the one in the middle that I think all decent folk should be concerned about 😞 Personally speaking, if I had those three pamphlets in hand that'd be three less paper targets I'd need to print off 3 hours ago, pinfireman said: What Nigel has said in the past has been fully reported, discussed.................time to move on. Marr merely tried to take control of the interview with a smear tactic. It didn,t work! Not with the BBC it hadn't or at least with Marr if they hadn't met for two years, or whatever it was. We hold politicians to account for what they have said in the past, that's one of the key objections here with respect to Parliament and Brexit, not sure why the same shouldn't apply to good old Nige... Anyway, like you say, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: Sobering, it's the one in the middle that I think all decent folk should be concerned about 😞 The one on the left isnt much better ! 'Labour will bring our country together' They ought to start with bringing the party together, and decide what they want to be , a centrist 'new labour' style or hard left/marxist economic sledge hammer, intent on turning the UK into a 3rd world country. The type of country that would spawn a million Tommy Robinsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: The one on the left isnt much better ! 'Labour will bring our country together' They ought to start with bringing the party together, and decide what they want to be , a centrist 'new labour' style or hard left/marxist economic sledge hammer, intent on turning the UK into a 3rd world country. The type of country that would spawn a million Tommy Robinsons. I agree but my only real interest in Labour is the hope that they can at least be "good enough" to contribute to a credible opposition to whoever is in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Sobering, it's the one in the middle that I think all decent folk should be concerned about The EU elections are nothing more than a distraction. There is little chance of anyone elected taking their seats. It is just a protest vote and most people will use it for just that. The next Westminster election - if UKIP couldn't win a seat with Farage leading - they won't with the present leadership. Labour is the real danger because they will wilfully and deliberately destroy our economy. They want us all, but especially the 'hated capitalists' who make much of the countries wealth and employment ground down into a Venezuela style socialist state where worker co-operatives 'own' the businesses, but the Unions hold the voting rights. McDonnell plans to take a 10% stake in FTSE companies into 'worker hands' (but they don't get the dividends or voting rights) controlled by Union and Party member committees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The EU elections are nothing more than a distraction. There is little chance of anyone elected taking their seats. It is just a protest vote and most people will use it for just that. The next Westminster election - if UKIP couldn't win a seat with Farage leading - they won't with the present leadership. Labour is the real danger because they will wilfully and deliberately destroy our economy. They want us all, but especially the 'hated capitalists' who make much of the countries wealth and employment ground down into a Venezuela style socialist state where worker co-operatives 'own' the businesses, but the Unions hold the voting rights. McDonnell plans to take a 10% stake in FTSE companies into 'worker hands' (but they don't get the dividends or voting rights) controlled by Union and Party member committees. I'd agree that Labour is the only party with a chance of forming a government at the next GE. They are so busy bribing the electorate with seemingly attractive propositions (but in reality, with ultimately disastrous consequences) that there's a real chance they will win. Unless some sort of Messiah pops up to save the Tories, we face anarchy for at least a couple of years. Only winners will be hard-line lefties and snowflakes. God help us if the likes or Robinson get a foot-hold. Doesn't bode well, whatever happens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, WestonSalop said: I'd agree that Labour is the only party with a chance of forming a government at the next GE. They are so busy bribing the electorate with seemingly attractive propositions (but in reality, with ultimately disastrous consequences) that there's a real chance they will win. Unless some sort of Messiah pops up to save the Tories, we face anarchy for at least a couple of years. Only winners will be hard-line lefties and snowflakes. God help us if the likes or Robinson get a foot-hold. Doesn't bode well, whatever happens..... It's certainly a mess that the Tories have orchestrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, oowee said: It's certainly a mess that the Remain MPs of all parties have orchestrated. There corrected it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: There corrected it for you Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Someone (can't remember who?) said the EU election IS the new 'people's vote'..........a vote for a Brexit party candidate is a vote reaffirming the outcome of the Brexit referendum!...... Sounds fair comment to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: There corrected it for you 🙂 It was correct. Another Tory ....up. You seem to have forgotten already so best I remind you so that we do not put them back in power again. With Tory t... pots in power and Corbygeddon waiting in the wings (almost for the fallout) where does the sane voter go next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, wyn said: Four Welsh Assembly members have just joined the Brexit party. 3 hours ago, Rewulf said: I was just telling someone about the upcoming election on the 23 rd , and noticed that 14 UKIP MEPs are now Brexit Party defectors, virtually all of UKIPs MEPS. Honest politicians going with their concience?...........or rats jumping off a floundering ship, onto one that floats and is making headway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: Someone (can't remember who?) said the EU election IS the new 'people's vote'....... It was Umuna; he said it was 'the peoples vote' and when done we could forget Brexit and remain in the EU. Being an MP, he has no interest in either what people want, or even what the result of the vote is. He plans to remain regardless. It sums up our MPs, but Umuna always was a preening self promoting non listening idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: Honest politicians going with their concience?...........or rats jumping off a floundering ship, onto one that floats and is making headway? UKIP piglets keeping their snouts in the trough. 🙂 Out them for something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: Honest politicians going with their concience?...........or rats jumping off a floundering ship, onto one that floats and is making headway? I dont care as long as they get us cleanly out the EU . Just now, oowee said: UKIP piglets keeping their snouts in the trough. 🙂 Out them for something new. That only works if we stop in doesnt it, or are you saying the Brexit party doesnt really want Brexit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: It was Umuna; he said it was 'the peoples vote' and when done we could forget Brexit and remain in the EU. Being an MP, he has no interest in either what people want, or even what the result of the vote is. He plans to remain regardless. It sums up our MPs, but Umuna always was a preening self promoting non listening idiot. He may come to regret that proclamation then? Lol! 🤢If the Brexit party do as well as predicted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, panoma1 said: He may come to regret that proclamation then? Lol! 🤢If the Brexit party do as well as predicted! Quite - I couldn't believe it - it was in his Party Election Broadcast. Breathtakingly arrogant. Lets have the vote and then get on with organising to remain. But he was always a Blairite type Labour man - believed he could ignore others and just make everyone do as he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 https://order-order.com/2019/05/15/four-welsh-ams-including-mark-reckless-defect-brexit-party/ Mark Reckless and three other Welsh AMs have formally confirmed that they are joining to the Brexit Party, after Guido revealed their imminent defections 24 hours ago. You’re either in front of Guido… The four AMs have now given official notice to the Welsh Assembly that they are forming a Brexit Party Group in the assembly, with independents Caroline and Mandy Jones joining David Rowlands, who’s quitting UKIP, and Reckless who’s leaving the Tories again. It’s the third time he’s switched party in just five years, will it be third time lucky for Mark? 4 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Sobering, it's the one in the middle that I think all decent folk should be concerned about 😞 Personally speaking, if I had those three pamphlets in hand that'd be three less paper targets I'd need to print off Not with the BBC it hadn't or at least with Marr if they hadn't met for two years, or whatever it was. We hold politicians to account for what they have said in the past, that's one of the key objections here with respect to Parliament and Brexit, not sure why the same shouldn't apply to good old Nige... Anyway, like you say, move along. It has been FULLY discussed........Nigel Farage has been held to account!......Marr was just smearing, something he does quite well, except when it,s one of his Left Wing pals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, oowee said: It's certainly a mess that the Tories have orchestrated. and how would you move on? We know who caused it, so what is your way forward? 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Someone (can't remember who?) said the EU election IS the new 'people's vote'..........a vote for a Brexit party candidate is a vote reaffirming the outcome of the Brexit referendum!...... Sounds fair comment to me! And me! 1 hour ago, oowee said: 🙂 It was correct. Another Tory ....up. You seem to have forgotten already so best I remind you so that we do not put them back in power again. With Tory t... pots in power and Corbygeddon waiting in the wings (almost for the fallout) where does the sane voter go next? The Brexit Party? And Yellow Bear was right, it was the Remain MPs of ALL parties who caused this screw up! 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: It was Umuna; he said it was 'the peoples vote' and when done we could forget Brexit and remain in the EU. Being an MP, he has no interest in either what people want, or even what the result of the vote is. He plans to remain regardless. It sums up our MPs, but Umuna always was a preening self promoting non listening idiot. and one who will NEVER lead the Labour Party now! 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: I dont care as long as they get us cleanly out the EU . That only works if we stop in doesnt it, or are you saying the Brexit party doesnt really want Brexit ? Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Scully said: Missed it. Where can I see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Cheers Newbie. Much appreciated. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Jeremy Corbyn spent PMQs railing against highly paid FTSE 100 chief executives, challenging May: “is this a Government of the many or in the pockets of an elite few?” Unfortunately John McDonnell didn’t seem to get the memo in time, he’s spent the last two days hobnobbing at exclusive events… with FTSE 100 chief executives. Awkward… Yesterday McDonnell was a keynote speaker at the Wall Street Journal’s annual ‘CEO Council’ summit while just this morning he was the keynote speaker again at the FT’s‘Brexit and Beyond’ Summit with yet more business bigshots. Barely an hour before Corbyn tore into them at PMQs… Tickets for the FT event were a whopping £995, membership fees for the WSJ’s ‘CEO Council’ are only available on request, Guido understands they run into tens of thousands. If Corbyn’s looking for someone “in the pockets of an elite few” he only needs to look down his own frontbench… Source: Guido Fawkes Edited May 15, 2019 by pinfireman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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