clumber Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Does anyone have the above to secure one parparticular room of the house? Care staff will need to gain access to the house while I'm working so I want a room locked off. What type of door would be best, moulded, fire door, solid wood etc, to fit a decent lock or locks too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Depends on whether you want it properly secure, or just a 'no access'. If 'no access' then a moulded door will be perfectly fine. Need something more substantial, go solid wood or fire door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 What are the original doors made of? Surely just putting a night latch lock or a hasp and staple on it would be OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 The existing door is a lightweight frame and ply skin job, rubbish really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingdead Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Swapped all our internal doors to Howdens 4 Panel Clear Pine doors and took the opportunity to add a Yale push button door lock onto one door along with a couple of hinge bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 If its just to stop nosey parkers put a 3 or 5 lever morice dead lock below the existing handle. https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-locke-3-lever-3-lever-mortice-deadlock-nickel-plated-2-64mm/3090G?tc=HA1&ds_kid=92700022061875989&ds_rl=1249481&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=CjwKCAjw4avaBRBPEiwA_ZetYoZU_Xtxgo6Tl4QmRJs8QcEVz4FAUvqldhDDLqK_Kc1oa_bNrdig4BoCehcQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CLuIsqSUodwCFaQx0wodI7cPbA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, screamingdead said: Swapped all our internal doors to Howdens 4 Panel Clear Pine doors and took the opportunity to add a Yale push button door lock onto one door along with a couple of hinge bolts. Hadn't thought of hinge bolts, put on the list. Thanks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) If it’s a 35 mm door you can’t fit a 5 lever lock correctly and it’s pointless as it’s not recognised by insurance etc. if you’ve got slamming strips you’ll be able to remove them and push them back 10mm to fit a fd 30 door and fit a 5 lever lock. Only 3 lever locks fit in 35mm doors and they’re useless. Hinge bolts are great but pointless again on an inwards opening door and if the walls are plaster/stud. Edited July 15, 2018 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 If it was me I would just fit a new door handle with lock. I doubt care staff would be kicking a door down. Anything of any value is better off in a safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 52 minutes ago, team tractor said: Hinge bolts are great but pointless again on an inwards opening door and if the walls are plaster/stud. All walls are stone and brick. I wouldn't be bothered about having to switch the door around so it opens outwards, may even be a better option. 6 minutes ago, Rst1990 said: If it was me I would just fit a new door handle with lock. I doubt care staff would be kicking a door down. Anything of any value is better off in a safe. With the care staff needing access I have to provide a keysafe outside. It's the thought of that key, even though it's locked up, being outside that bothers me. I'd rather shut the door before the horse bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 May be think about fitting a shed/garage alarm to the room that you need to keep secure. Nothing is going to guarantee 100% protection, but an alarm going off might just give you the edge. If you had a proper alarm system fitted you can zone areas even when the carers are on site, with cctv cameras fitted as well, they can be linked directly to your phone and also give the cared for patient their own push button alarm. Good luck with what you decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 hours ago, team tractor said: If it’s a 35 mm door you can’t fit a 5 lever lock correctly and it’s pointless as it’s not recognised by insurance etc. if you’ve got slamming strips you’ll be able to remove them and push them back 10mm to fit a fd 30 door and fit a 5 lever lock. Only 3 lever locks fit in 35mm doors and they’re useless. Hinge bolts are great but pointless again on an inwards opening door and if the walls are plaster/stud. Do this☝️ and fit and intruder alarm in the room or one of those ring door bell thingys they are brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 A heads up for the key safe, only one has Police endorsement, the others are carp and house insurance could be compromised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, old man said: only one has Police endorsement, Do you have a link to which one please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: Do you have a link to which one please Here you go......................https://keysafe.co.uk/products/key-safes/c500-keysafe.html?ppc_keyword=supra c500&gclid=CjwKCAjwhLHaBRAGEiwAHCgG3reOU7zbW42n8S4DXJbyE7NPbjythAIG1i5v8UPY1ZTg-PBrpUaYNBoCztYQAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, CharlieT said: Here you go......................https://keysafe.co.uk/products/key-safes/c500-keysafe.html?ppc_keyword=supra c500&gclid=CjwKCAjwhLHaBRAGEiwAHCgG3reOU7zbW42n8S4DXJbyE7NPbjythAIG1i5v8UPY1ZTg-PBrpUaYNBoCztYQAvD_BwE Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Dougy said: linky Ta Dougy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, old man said: Ta Dougy. I have one and they are bloomin hard to get into, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, Dougy said: I have one and they are bloomin hard to get into, So does my mil. Which is probably the idea. You failing to break it is some endorsement?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, old man said: So does my mil. Which is probably the idea. You failing to break it is some endorsement?? Knickers they were cheap mounts anyway lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 you could fit hotel type knobs / handles to the door howdens sell then ten or fifteen quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 16/07/2018 at 18:31, Dougy said: Knickers they were cheap mounts anyway lol Apologies to the OP, but the mental anguish you caused to Flyboy that day still troubles him. Every time we visit the scene of your crime he wails about it. Pork pies may just sooth him? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just how secure are you needing this room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Thanks all for replying, given me a few ideas. The lock box that Dougy put a link up for looks solid enough. Spoken to a couple of friends who are also licence holders and in a similar situation an they've given me plenty of ideas to think about. I may be going OTT with the security but I don't want to give the FEO anything to complain about and also to give me peace of mind. Thanks again, Clumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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