mec 600 bushes

[hawkfanz]

ok good people just tried my new 2nd hand mec reloader in 20g,biggest powder bush i have is no30 its dropping 19grains of psb2,i need 23grains,so who can tell me which bush i need to buy to get correct weight.thanks.

[Guest cookoff013]

Hold on....

19grain and #30, is 19 grain per 2.4208 so is 0.1274

2.93044 or 36Bush.  But that is if the 19 is accurate.

[hawkfanz]

yes cookoff the bush in the loader is number 30,,,,its dropping 19 grains have checked it every time on redding powder beam scales,loaded many 1000,s years ago useing nobel powders, but loading 20gauge and modern powders is new to me,,,so need some help on it,,,last powder i bought for wildfowling b4 the lead ban was blue dot,i have a printout of mec bushes and what load they drop,,,but maxam powders are not listed.

[Guest cookoff013]

It may pay off to get #35, and open it up as and when. But i bought nearly every bush

[reggiegun]

11 hours ago, hawkfanz said:

ok good people just tried my new 2nd hand mec reloader in 20g,biggest powder bush i have is no30 its dropping 19grains of psb2,i need 23grains,so who can tell me which bush i need to buy to get correct weight.thanks.

Did you check for bushes in the blue box, there was a few for twenty?

[Guest cookoff013]

can you do me a favour? can you check your recipe again. because thats an awful lot of powder, and it coincidently is the same abount that should be used in 12gauge. 

just check now !!

[hawkfanz]

yes reg the one i,m usein is the biggest in there,35 is the one i reckon i would need.

[snow white]

Cookoff thats what i was thinking i now its a diffrent powder vectran A1 17.5 grains in my 20 bore loads 28 gram shot.

[Guest cookoff013]

It's a 24g . Guys.

[hawkfanz]

yes thats what ive loaded 24gram no6, with fibre wad.

[reggiegun]

if you phone clay and game, they will tell you what size you need

[mecman]

I have a couple of spare ones you can have if you pm your details I will send them but you will have to bore them out.

[hawkfanz]

have pm you many thanks for your generious offer,john

have just compared price of maxam powder and a1 and the latter is nearly double the price of maxam,so it doesn,t seem such a good deal usein a1.

[snow white]

What weight of powder are you loading.

[hawkfanz]

23grains  psb2

[snow white]

Thats to much in a 20bore load mate

[snow white]

Just spoke to c/g thay are saying start at 18 grains I AM ASKING THEM FOR ME AS I HAVE JUST RUN OUT OF A1.

I have 4 tubes of psb2 that i will be using like been said on here Check powder load.

[hawkfanz]

the print out from clay and game gives the data as 65mm pt,cx2000 primer,23.0/1.49 psb2,  3mmcard+16mm f/w shot 24 grams, vm.fps 1316, crimp,pressure bar @1"560.10, so you are telling me this data from them is incorrect.is that right.

[Guest cookoff013]

I actually believe the data. I really do. But it looks very inefficient. It's a slow powder, and is designed for 28gram loads in 20bore. It's like they got a 28gram load and put in 24g. As the load looks so inefficient, it looks bad for the gauge, as in it takes 23grain to get 560bar. The only loads that get close to those powder charges is hodgdons long shot. And that's as as low anyone would want to go. The lead weight makes the load a slight expensive lemon. This is just more opinion. 

[snow white]

Like i said earler i was asking for myself its up to you have you go about your bussines.

I will start of a couple with 18 grains and work up i am not worred about my gun blowing up but i am worred about trying to pick my sandwich up with couple fingers missing.

[cervusman]

According to my charts it’s the number 38 Mec bush you need for 23gr of PSB2. I can send you a copy of the chart if you need it.

[hawkfanz]

this data was given to me with the mec i bought along with 2 tubs of psb2 powder so i am going to use it up,i will look further into it for other loads that maybe better,i dont see how a1 would be cheaper to load,it costs £38 50 a tub,while maxam is £22 50 a tub.but have blue dot available for 28gram loads should i wish to use it,also lookin for data for no80/no82 powder to use that up as well.i first started to reload way back about 1972,but since the lead ban have stopped wildfowling so have had a layoff,,,hence i,m not upto speed with some modern powders.

this data was given to me with the mec i bought along with 2 tubs of psb2 powder so i am going to use it up,i will look further into it for other loads that maybe better,i dont see how a1 would be cheaper to load,it costs £38 50 a tub,while maxam is £22 50 a tub.but have blue dot available for 28gram loads should i wish to use it,also lookin for data for no80/no82 powder to use that up as well.i first started to reload way back about 1972,but since the lead ban have stopped wildfowling so have had a layoff,,,hence i,m not upto speed with some modern powders. thanks cervus man have sent pm with email ad.

[snow white]

Well you load 18 grains a1 so you get more loads per kilo than psb at your 23 grains not worked it out not going to how long it wouod take all the best with your loading.ps i have been loading since 1969 with no lay off.

[cervusman]

I’ve just had a look at my reloading data for 20b 70mm  case, it’s a CX2000 prime, 19gr PSB2, B&P Z-22 wad 24g shot,

or 70mm case CX20000 primer, 18gr PSB2 with a Faye Type 84 wad 28g shot. So the bush you have is the right one.

[hawkfanz]

yes thats fine for plastic wads but i,m loading fibre wad hence higher powder charge.