Guest stevo Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) Just seen Hull cartridges new offering to the game shooting world It’s called ..... The Partridge Cartridge. It’s a 70 mm 32 gram in 5.5 shot ..... really ? Oh and £350 a thou ? Me thinks mr bontoft needs to having a word with himself and then his marketing team . With all the hassle at the moment regards game birds being wasted , is it really any wonder why game dealers are turning birds away . These shells will absolutely smash a partridge to bits at pretty much any normal range , And in turn be totally unfit for the table . Just my opinion but I really do think it’s about time some common sense was applied when selecting our cartridges . And maybe a little realistic. Edited July 28, 2018 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Couldn’t agree more that’s more a duck cartridge! I destroyed a partridge somewhere between 20-25yds last season with 28gms of 6 (my pheasant load) on our syndicate these were RC SIPE 20g. Some of the guns were giving me sh!t about it but fortunately the ‘keeper was stood at the rear of the line picking up and assured everyone it was a good shot - believe me it was dead in the air as it’s head, 1/2 it’s right wing and breast were missing.... when everyone calmed down all we can guess is that some of the pellets bonded together and smashed its poor little body. 32gm of 5 is what I use for PSG.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) An ounce of sevens is a Partridge/Grouse cartridge! edit to say in 12 bore! Edited July 28, 2018 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, panoma1 said: An ounce of sevens is a Partridge/Grouse cartridge! edit to say in 12 bore! Exactly, it’s what I have always used . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 39 minutes ago, stevo said: Just seen Hull cartridges new offering to the game shooting world It’s called ..... The Partridge Cartridge. It’s a 70 mm 32 gram in 5.5 shot ..... really ? Oh and £350 a thou ? Me thinks mr bontoft needs to having a word with himself and then his marketing team . With all the hassle at the moment regards game birds being wasted , is it really any wonder why game dealers are turning birds away . These shells will absolutely smash a partridge to bits at pretty much any normal range , And in turn be totally unfit for the table . Just my opinion but I really do think it’s about time some common sense was applied when selecting our cartridges . And maybe a little realistic. Good post and a very valid point, of course the reason they are misleading shooters into believing 5.5's represent an appropriate partridge load is so that they can carry on their industry scam of charging more for bigger shot. You can buy clay 1oz loads in 7's which will kill any pigeon or partridge within 50-60 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Cartridge prices are still shooting up (pardon the pun), but lead prices are fairly stable, the cost of producing powder, primers and wads has not risen significantly, and neither has the cost of making Cheddite cases! It,s a rip off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I have used Eley Superbs 28 gram English 7s in a fibre wad for all of my partridge days for as long as I care to remember ( I also use the same cartridge but in plaswad for ABT and UTR ) before that I used Eley Impax or Express super game 28 gram 7s and never have I ever felt like I needed more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Clever marketing for people with more money than sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 And the people who shoot trap guns at 25-40 metre birds thinking their shooting archangels and need heavy loads. Where I load in Salisbury area there’s the chalk valley showing some of the best Partridges in the country and where high bird shoots where first shown. The birds haven’t got higher over the years and back then and now most experienced guns use 30g 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksopener Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 A 14 gram 7 from the .410 is an appropriate partridge load! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 To be honest, I'm unlikely to try these, I always have my shells put together by the London Gun Room to my personal specifications. Mind you, I still can't hit a proverbial barn door... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 hours ago, stevo said: Just seen Hull cartridges new offering to the game shooting world It’s called ..... The Partridge Cartridge. It’s a 70 mm 32 gram in 5.5 shot ..... really ? Oh and £350 a thou ? Me thinks mr bontoft needs to having a word with himself and then his marketing team . With all the hassle at the moment regards game birds being wasted , is it really any wonder why game dealers are turning birds away . These shells will absolutely smash a partridge to bits at pretty much any normal range , And in turn be totally unfit for the table . Just my opinion but I really do think it’s about time some common sense was applied when selecting our cartridges . And maybe a little realistic. make a great pigeon shell stevo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 If they where half the price they'd be great for the rooks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, bluesj said: If they where half the price they'd be great for the rooks! An ounce of 7 are good for those, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 18.5grs 7s in my reloads or 18 grm 8s Fiocchi factory seem to do the job very well in my 410, either #1full chokes or #11 chokes in my Yilditz seem perfect if I do my part. Don't see the need for anything heavier. I have been using Hull High Pheasant 6s when pheasant are included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 It’s a marketing ploy . Another way to screw shooters . An ounce of 6 shot is good for any game bird . Oh ,look boys I have a special partridge cartridge . What a load of old tosh, but the tackle tarts will buy them . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Can't see anything on the Hull Cartridge website : https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/ Mind you the Game Fair is on and they may have launched it there? Anyhow..... rediculous stupid product. What are they thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Whitebridges said: Can't see anything on the Hull Cartridge website : https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/ Mind you the Game Fair is on and they may have launched it there? Anyhow..... rediculous stupid product. What are they thinking? Try harder ?? https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/game/cartridges/partridge-cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Kids and computers come to mind ! Their marketing dept seem to be making idle doodles reality. They will sell to the all the gear but no idea brigade,no doubt...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, stevo said: Try harder ?? https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/game/cartridges/partridge-cartridge Lovely, it's not everyday i get done in by a yella bellie. Thank you kindly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbit Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 This will rock your world! They allready make this new cartridge in their existing range! High Pheasant Extreme in 32gm 6 is really 5.5. There is 20fps difference just to make you feel better! These are obviously aimed at the Whitfield,Linhope,Buccleugh type partridge but the market can hardly be huge. A personal favourite is "spherical tolerance controlled hardened shot" ie.graded! Marketing tosh! They're giving Gamebore a run for their money! WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Whitebridges said: Lovely, it's not everyday i get done in by a yella bellie. Thank you kindly. Hahaha your welcome mucker ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/game/cartridges/ultimate-twenty this is just stupid also. Same as their high pheasant extreme cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Harnser said: It’s a marketing ploy . Another way to screw shooters . An ounce of 6 shot is good for any game bird . Oh ,look boys I have a special partridge cartridge . What a load of old tosh, but the tackle tarts will buy them . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 To be honest, it is hardly surprising to me that companies release this kind of offering. You only have to look at these pages to see what loads people think are the minimum to kill a pigeon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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