Rewulf Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 You may have heard this on the news this morning. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45342682 I dont partake of energy drinks myself, dont like the taste. But it got me thinking, what constitutes an 'energy' drink? Is it the sugar content? Cola or the big baddy ,Liptons ice tea, has easily as much, if not more sugar. Is it the caffeine ? They are talking about banning the sale of these drinks to under 18s !! Citing that anything over 150 mg of caffeine per litre is bad for you. Bear in mind a 250 ml cup of coffee has 100mg , thats 400mg per litre ! Yes I know that taurine is sometimes an ingredient, but all that does is make the release of caffeine a little quicker into the body. My point is , what is the point of banning these ,and not banning all the other fizzy drinks and other 'lifting' beverages? You can fight for your country, have sex and hold a job down, but cant have a fizzy drink. What next ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Heard it. Nanny state strikes again. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Not strictly a response to the OP........but Red Bull works for me, when I get tired whilst driving on long journeys, I always carry it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Not strictly a response to the OP........but Red Bull works for me, when I get tired whilst driving on long journeys, I always carry it! Dont doubt it works, its caffeine, and I love coffee ! Its just , how can they ban it for under 18 s , are they banned from starbucks in case they get a double shot in their latte ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Not strictly a response to the OP........but Red Bull works for me, when I get tired whilst driving on long journeys, I always carry it! Yes I normally keep one in the car. That's a good use, not drinking ten on a night out along with shots and going hyper wanting to fight everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Yes I normally keep one in the car. That's a good use, not drinking ten on a night out along with shots and going hyper wanting to fight everybody. I was on a training day at work, and a guy in his late 20's came into the room, trembling and shaking slightly. On our lunch break, he was slurring and told us that he drinks 10-15 cans of Red Bull a day. He admitted that he was having withdrawal symptons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) As a person that I’d say was an addict I think under 16s shouldn’t have it. i used to drink it occasionally then a can a day then 3 a day. I’d get the shakes and headaches without it. I just felt so energyless. Its diabetes in a can and carries massive health risks. It’s not the caffeine but the taurine that causes mental health issues. taurine was given the American soldiers in Vietnam to keep them awake and caused mental health problems after . It’s true just google it. I havent had had it in years now as it’s also caused me major stomach problems so I’m on tablets daily to calm it down. my reason I drank it so much was I was out clubbing until 3am and in work for 7am on Wednesday, Thursday,Friday,Saturday when I was single . Guess I was also having it during the night too . Edited August 30, 2018 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Under 16s shouldnt have it... But I do use them now and again, I work long hours in a quarry, you need to stay pin sharp or someone gets killed and a can of this stuff does help when needs be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant hit them all Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 yh you already have to show I.D for these drinks for 6 months in most major super markets, but what makes me laugh the government concerned about these drinks but in my town it's easier to get class A drugs than a can of red bull, its even know to the police that kids young as 10 years ol been buying pill and cannabis but there not one bit bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Another vote to ban. Hell I used to drink 5-10 of those cheap 'euro shopper' ones at 35p whilst rearing. Id go to the local shop and used to buy them by the slab. They'd get extra in for me. I'd be fine all day, but as soon as I'd got home I'd turn the motor off and fall asleep on the drive. Misses would come out and wake me up. Then the massive come down (headaches, shakes, dose of the ****s - permanently). Plus the mood swings I had at the time. I have 1 every other day now, but they are addictive, but unfortunately I've a addictive personality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 This wont stop them drinking it, smokings the same, they will get a mate to buy it. If they were serious theyd ban the manufacturers adding the high content of caffine and sugar etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 I think banning kids from drinking these drinks is easy and obvious, why would you want your kids having a red bull or similar? Saw it on the telly today and thought it was already banned, kids drinking 6-7 cans then having heart trouble!!! For my kids fizzy drink is an occasional treat if were out some place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) Why even try to address a problem that is known to be causing problems, ? lets just do nothing about anything that may help future society. How bizarre that even when they try and fix something as plainly stupid as ludicrous amounts of sugar and other unnecessary elements in our diets people moan about the "nanny" state. Edited August 31, 2018 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Tried red bull once, didn't like it. I confess to being fond of the occasional lucazade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Yep ban it for kids. Must confess to a few Vodka Bulls on a night out It's not easy to call all these things as life is dangerous full stop. Most things are fine in moderation and used sensibly but there will always be some that will push the boundaries. We could end up banning most things if we carry on down this road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Hamster said: Why even try to address a problem that is known to be causing problems, ? lets just do nothing about anything that may help future society. How bizarre that even when they try and fix something as plainly stupid as ludicrous amounts of sugar and other unnecessary elements in our diets people moan about the "nanny" state. I think it's more about free choice, I don't drink them personally, but if everything that was harmful was banned life would be pretty boring, why not outright ban, cigarettes, alcohol, gambling, porn, they cause lots of addiction and/or harm, why stop there? We could ban shooting, cycling, swimming, vehicles or running in the park, people get injured or die all the time doing them, I'm pretty sure people have died using toasters to, so ban them as well ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I have noticed a rise in people drinking these as if they were 'normal drinks' 7am on the trains, children walking to school drinking them, mothers at the gates, then again i see a guy in the mornings with a McDonalds breakfast and a coke as the drink so is that any worse? back in the day we once worked out that on an average night out we would drink about 8 cans of redbull in 5 or so hours drinking Vodka Redbull with the old ozzy offer card (£1 a drink) i honestly thought i was once having a heart attack at 3am and stopped drinking as many after that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Had a couple of Red Bull drinks several years ago when doing a Cardiff to Norwich and back in a day - never again! I couldn't sleep for a day or so afterwards. Not surprised by this but what next? How far can nanny state go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I am all for banning them to under 18s, there is no reason for kids to have them and at that age (or any age) it cant be doing them any good. Only time i have drunk them is as part of a couple of jaeger bombs on a night out. If someone needs them on a daily basis to function at some point you will come crashing down you are quite simply forcing your body to do more than it should, someone mentioned working on a quarry personally if i was the foreman i wouldnt be happy with the site running off red bull! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I think it's more about free choice, I don't drink them personally, but if everything that was harmful was banned life would be pretty boring, why not outright ban, cigarettes, alcohol, gambling, porn, they cause lots of addiction and/or harm, why stop there? We could ban shooting, cycling, swimming, vehicles or running in the park, people get injured or die all the time doing them, I'm pretty sure people have died using toasters to, so ban them as well ??? Access to these is already controlled so it's not a case of banning everything, even porn is arguably already restricted to over 18's. Putting sugar and some caffeine in a can and calling it "Energy" ? drink is duping impressionable young kids, pure and simple. We KNOW these things are harmful and totally pointless, their only real use is to make parasites like RedBulls owners billionaires off the back of a physically harmful product. And yet I'm not asking for a ban but pointing out that restricting access until after they've wised up a little to the nasty world that awaits them is a good start. They are yours and my kids remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Hamster said: Access to these is already controlled so it's not a case of banning everything, even porn is arguably already restricted to over 18's. Putting sugar and some caffeine in a can and calling it "Energy" ? drink is duping impressionable young kids, pure and simple. We KNOW these things are harmful and totally pointless, their only real use is to make parasites like RedBulls owners billionaires off the back of a physically harmful product. And yet I'm not asking for a ban but pointing out that restricting access until after they've wised up a little to the nasty world that awaits them is a good start. They are yours and my kids remember. Fair point mate, I was being a little facetious, although how they think restricting it to over 18 will work is beyond me, all that will do is make the younger kids want to get it and they will get it easily I should imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I think a lot of you are missing the point. How can you ban one drink because it has too much sugar in it, and not another that has more, just because its not promoted as an energy drink? Likewise ,how can you say a drink has too much caffeine in it, when drinks like coffee have more? People are talking about drinking 5 cans of monster and having palpitations, hardly surprising, try drinking 5 cups of strong coffee, you will get exactly the same effect. Caffeine in excess has been known to kill. We know sugar in excess is bad for you, weve known for many years it causes diabetes and heart problems, so are we going to ban everything with sugar in it ? Asking for ID to prove you are 18+ to buy a can of pop , really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I think a lot of you are missing the point. How can you ban one drink because it has too much sugar in it, and not another that has more, just because its not promoted as an energy drink? Likewise ,how can you say a drink has too much caffeine in it, when drinks like coffee have more? People are talking about drinking 5 cans of monster and having palpitations, hardly surprising, try drinking 5 cups of strong coffee, you will get exactly the same effect. Caffeine in excess has been known to kill. We know sugar in excess is bad for you, weve known for many years it causes diabetes and heart problems, so are we going to ban everything with sugar in it ? Asking for ID to prove you are 18+ to buy a can of pop , really ? Got to say I agree. Free country? It's starting to feel like I'm living in North Korea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I think a lot of you are missing the point. How can you ban one drink because it has too much sugar in it, and not another that has more, just because its not promoted as an energy drink? Likewise ,how can you say a drink has too much caffeine in it, when drinks like coffee have more? People are talking about drinking 5 cans of monster and having palpitations, hardly surprising, try drinking 5 cups of strong coffee, you will get exactly the same effect. Caffeine in excess has been known to kill. We know sugar in excess is bad for you, weve known for many years it causes diabetes and heart problems, so are we going to ban everything with sugar in it ? Asking for ID to prove you are 18+ to buy a can of pop , really ? I think you are missing the point. Kids are not buying and drinking 5 cups of coffee from Starbucks. They are buying and drinking 5 cans of Monster from the local corner shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 If you look at the designs of the energy drink cans they are all geared toward the younger market - aside randomly for some of the stores own brand that come in plain ish cans - maybe thats the solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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