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    My daughter has just started A levels, and one of her chosen subjects is photography.

    The inevitable 'I need a camera' has been raised.
    'And no, I dont want one of your old compacts'¬†ūüėĄ

    She seems to think shes got to have a big bulky SLR ,Ive told her to talk to the tutor, and see what she needs.
    In my humble unprofessional opinion, camera technology has moved on somewhat, and good images can be obtained with small  interchangeable lens type cameras.
    Even my phone can do RAW images, so esteemed knowledgeable camera people.
    Looking for recommendations.

    P.S. I dont want to spend a fortune, she has a nasty habit of breaking things, she breaks nearly every phone screen shes ever had.

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    Would it be one of those situation where she does need to have the 'toys' an SLR gives to allow the various theories to be learned practically?

    Most airplanes have autopilot, but always good then the person knows how to land the thing themselves!!

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    Rob as you say, get her to ask the Tutor what she needs, second hand and cheap would be my suggestion, she has to learn the eternal triangle;

     

     

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    10 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:

    Would it be one of those situation where she does need to have the 'toys' an SLR gives to allow the various theories to be learned practically?

    Most airplanes have autopilot, but always good then the person knows how to land the thing themselves!!

    Quite possibly, shes only been on the course a few days, so she doesnt really know herself yet.

    Dont mind getting her a cheap SLR to play with, but shes notorious for saying 'I need that' and within days its 'I need something else now '

    Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    Rob as you say, get her to ask the Tutor what she needs, second hand and cheap would be my suggestion, she has to learn the eternal triangle;

     

     

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    Thanks, that sounds good solid advice¬†ūüĎć

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    Rob, contact these people;

    London Camera Exchange. A specialist supplier of new and second-hand cameras, lenses and photographic equipment.

    0115 941 7486

    7 Pelham St, Nottingham NG1 2EH
     
    An old but serviceable Canon like the 20D or 30D should be a reasonable price and will allow her to change lenses and a later upgrade to a younger Canon which would allow the same lenses to be used.

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    hello, i started with a Zenith E :rolleyes:  all i would add is make sure the camera fits nice in her hands and she can use all the buttons etc without to much trouble, best of luck

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    Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:

    hello, i started with a Zenith E :rolleyes:  all i would add is make sure the camera fits nice in her hands and she can use all the buttons etc without to much trouble, best of luck

    Let me guess, was that some time in the last century?:whistling:

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    37 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    Rob, contact these people;

    London Camera Exchange. A specialist supplier of new and second-hand cameras, lenses and photographic equipment.

    0115 941 7486

     
    7 Pelham St, Nottingham NG1 2EH
     
    An old but serviceable Canon like the 20D or 30D should be a reasonable price and will allow her to change lenses and a later upgrade to a younger Canon which would allow the same lenses to be used.

    Awesome, cheers Dave¬†ūüĎć

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    Find a nice sh .nikon d3000 / 3001 /3002  etc. 

    With a standard lens or 2 if it comes with. 

    That way your buying into the biggest and best camera system ever at a  very cheap price .and all the lenses and bodies will be interchangeable for ever .

    Should pick one up for around  £ 200 

    Which is better than spending on something that was obsolete the day after it was brand new. 

     

    It will do evry thing she needs and can learn all the basics of photography .

    A phone camera will teach her nothing. 

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    10 minutes ago, Ultrastu said:

    Find a nice sh .nikon d3000 / 3001 /3002  etc. 

    With a standard lens or 2 if it comes with. 

    That way your buying into the biggest and best camera system ever at a  very cheap price .and all the lenses and bodies will be interchangeable for ever .

    Should pick one up for around  £ 200 

    Which is better than spending on something that was obsolete the day after it was brand new. 

     

    It will do evry thing she needs and can learn all the basics of photography .

    A phone camera will teach her nothing. 

    Cheers Stu , thats the way I was thinking too.
    You can spend mega bucks on the latest, but the older stuff still does the same job.
    Maybe more bells and whistles , maybe a little faster, but when she gets a bit more advanced, she can pay for them herself !

    She takes some great shots with her phone though, she seems to have the 'eye' for the 'moment'

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    I suspect any of the 12mp compact/bridge cameras with full manual and raw would be suitable.

    There are plenty of pre-owned 2-5 year old digital cameras available for not much money.

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    I can take a good pic with my pixel 2xl, in fact it shocks me how good the pics are.

    Then i take a pic with my canon 7d and realise why i paid all that money for the camera and lens.
    A proper DSLR  can take an amazing picture if you know how to use it properly, there are some very good older versions to be had second hand, i  recently sold a Canon 40d for £120 in DSLR  terms it's a dinosaur, but it takes a great photo. But remember the same as shooting, the glass is everything,spend on good lenses they will make a difference to your picture quality.

    Good luck, photography is like shooting,you need deep pockets¬†ūüėÄ

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    I am working in Tokyo at the moment and the Japanese love replacing their kit on a regular basis. You can pick up some great quality, perfect condition, second hand kit for about half price. 

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    Thanks for the replies guys, shes gone quiet on the matter for the moment, but Ive got some great pointers on what to get when shes ready.

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    On 07/09/2018 at 19:00, oldypigeonpopper said:

    hello TT thats the only one i can remember :rolleyes:

    My first plunge into the world of SLR was a Zenith too. 35mm and built like a tank.

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    1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said:

    My first plunge into the world of SLR was a Zenith too. 35mm and built like a tank.

    hello steve, yes perhaps a Russian oneūü§©ūüĎć

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    I still have my Zenit E,  which was superseded by a Pentax ME Super.  The latter was stolen and the loss of the film inside meant more than that of the hardware at the time.

    I did find another ME Super and I still have it.

    I currently use a Nikon D300 and see no need to change yet. I still have the D70 that I had before. I kept it as a spare but frankly ought to sell it.

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    I have a nikon d80 .which i love (really getting on now .) But still takes a fantastic shot .

    Just been looking at the new d7500 and comparing it to the slightly older d7200 .

    Pretty stuck as to which to get atm .

    Also have a nikon

    p340. , p1,  d50 , s510 , s7000 ,  fm3a , em 

    And a rash of lenses 

    Oh and my first camera  a practika slr in the loft .

     

     

     

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    Started with a Zenith EM which had hhe olympic motive on the prizm cap. Still have it as well as an Olympus OM10, Canon 50e film camera. Stuck with canon when changing to digital DSLR as the EM lenses I had fitted. Recently picked up a Canon 40d body for £70 as a second ca.era for those trips out where it's likely to get knocked about a bit. Good camera and takes great pics. 

    If I wanted another good value camera  I'd be looking at a secondhand 30d, 40d,50d or 60d, depending on condition Nd price when I look. 

     

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