Twymyn Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Has anyone loaded steel or itx in fibre shot cups. I assume they will be thicker than plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Used them with ITM in the 8 ... and they do a job. A good tip when slitting them, is to put the blade through at 45 degrees so there's not a direct line to the barrel wall. Not sure if it does any good, but it makes me feel better !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 I use them exclusively over card (inverted bottle top!) and fibre wads in the 8 bore, with ITM shot........yes! The walls are thicker than gualandi and other 8 bore plastic wads. I do not load steel presently, but if I were to, I would be tempted to put a thin plastic membrane inside of the cup, to prevent the shot coming into contact with the bore via the four slits, you need to make!....perhaps defeats the object slightly.....but maybe adds another bit of protection for the bores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thank you both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: Used them with ITM in the 8 ... and they do a job. A good tip when slitting them, is to put the blade through at 45 degrees so there's not a direct line to the barrel wall. Not sure if it does any good, but it makes me feel better !! I also cut the slits in the card cups at an angle, as an extra precaution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Plastic wads are slit at 90 degrees to the centre of the bore, it may be worth trying a few slit at 45 degrees so there is no direct channel for shot to force apart to come in contact with bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 I had never considered the benefits of cutting slits at angle so I,ve learned something. As a supplementary question can I simply substitute fibre for plastic in any recipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 When I loaded some with steel , clay game advised me to just use my normal data but with a fibre shot cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 I'd always add a powder card / fibre wad to get a good gas seal and stop the powder blowing through the bottom of the cup. You'll also need to do this for height. Unlikely the pressure will increase going from plastic to fibre, so you might consider adding a grain of powder or two at your own risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: I'd always add a powder card / fibre wad to get a good gas seal and stop the powder blowing through the bottom of the cup. You'll also need to do this for height. Unlikely the pressure will increase going from plastic to fibre, so you might consider adding a grain of powder or two at your own risk. I'm fairly sure I put a gas seal/fibre wad under the shot cup when I loaded some. Only did half a dozen and it was 3 seasons ago so i've forgotten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Many thanks. I have a 35g steel load which is good for ducks so I,ll have a go with that first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Twymyn Let us know how you get on with them please as I have said on other posts on here these fibre cups must be the way forward for all loads lead and steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, TIDES EDGE said: Twymyn Let us know how you get on with them please as I have said on other posts on here these fibre cups must be the way forward for all loads lead and steel. Will do although given the lack of proper consents on the Dyfi at the moment it may have to wait until I can get over to the Wash in November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen tiger Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Question for those that used these wads, any difference in pattern performance at all or just the same.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 09/09/2018 at 15:41, Big Mat said: When I loaded some with steel , clay game advised me to just use my normal data but with a fibre shot cup. well that's great [Im not surprised]..... here i am trying to source the exact wad as per the recipes, when in fact i could substitute any wad for a fibre without detriment. stick in a nitro card and add a grain or two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 When I did some testing with the fibre cups it patterned ok but big shot went (BBB) went through the wad wall and scored the barrels, so be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Fen tiger said: Question for those that used these wads, any difference in pattern performance at all or just the same.? I can't honestly remember, was 2 or 3 season ago. I think I've still got a few left so perhaps might try them again in the 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 I aquired some ages ago. My intention was to reload some 3" with lead, bismuth, steel, niceshot, copper, itx10 (awsome stuff bw) and t13. Just like I did with the last test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Ive just ordered some, it seems you can replace a plastic wad with fibre and a nitro card.. as muncher said v large shot tends to in- bed into the fibre, it will be interesting to see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diss4111 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 I have loaded some 24 gram clay loads with CSB5 powder and they work well. I've only tried a few and am going to shoot a round of 50 on sunday with them and see how I get on. I also have some 32 gram steel 4's using SSB+150 but have found I need to RTO and using a plastic frangiable disc almost defeats the object. I'll get some cardboard tops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Not wishing to teach my Granny to suck eggs , but in this modern age I thought the following may be helpful? Find a piece of thick wall steel tube the I.D. being the size of card wad you wish to make , grind the mouth of the steel tube to a knife sharp angle and punch out your own card wads using beer mats as the correct card. Hope this saves some of you a few pence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 I ordered an itx data sheet from Claygame with the intention of loading some BB loads in fibre shot cups but the recipes on that use CSB0 which they say is no longer available. can anyone point me to an itx load using an available powder. I have some Alliant steel and Alliant 381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag12g Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 any choke restrictions with these wads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diss4111 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 I shot my 24g loads through a kicks hy flyer Half choke at the weekend and they were devastating on clays. BIG balls of dust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twymyn Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 I went to the Midland gamefair which was pretty rubbish and poorly attended but on the plus side I was able to have a good chat with Stephen Dale of Claygame. As a result I have now loaded some 36g ITX 10 in 2 shot using a Cheddite hull with 39 grains of Alliant. The 38mm fibre shotcup is slightly small for 36g. Had to put two 3 mm fibre wads under the shot cup. The BP ITX manual says it does 1380 fps. Have yet to test/pattern it - will report back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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