Flying with spent cases in hold luggage

[henry d]

17 hours ago, Rst1990 said:

Wasn’t gonna comment but.... why on earth would you throw them in the river? I know it’s not the cleanest but don’t add to it.

No rubbish bins in the area, no time as we were due back after lunch and I didn`t want the hassle of trying to explain them if they got picked up second time through the scanner, there were 2-3 6.5 cases and the same tripple 2`s, so not that much toxic waste.

[phaedra1106]

As it currently stands empty brass cases whether fired or not are prohibited under ITAR

Here's the applicable part of 22 CFR 121.1

Category III - Ammunition/Ordnance
* (a) Ammunition/ordnance for the articles in Categories I and II of this section.
(b) Ammunition/ordnance handling equipment specifically designed or modified for the articles controlled in this category, such as, belting, linking, and de-linking equipment.
(c) Equipment and tooling specifically designed or modified for the production of defense articles controlled by this category.
(d) Components, parts, accessories, attachments and associated equipment specifically designed or modified for the articles in this category:
* (1) Guidance and control components for the articles in paragraph (a) of this category;
* (2) Safing, arming and fuzing components (including target detection and localization devices) for the articles in paragraph (a) of this category; and
(3) All other components, parts, accessories, attachments and associated equipment for the articles in paragraphs (a) through (c) of this category.
(e) Technical data (as defined in § 120.10 of this subchapter) and defense services (as defined in § 120.9 of this subchapter) directly related to the defense articles described in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this category. Technical data directly related to the manufacture or production of any defense articles described elsewhere in this category that are designated as Significant Military Equipment (SME) shall itself be designated SME.
(f) The following explains and amplifies the terms used in this category and elsewhere in this subchapter:
(1) The components, parts, accessories and attachments controlled in this category include, but are not limited to cartridge cases, powder bags (or other propellant charges), bullets, jackets, cores, shells (excluding shotgun shells), projectiles (including canister rounds and submunitions therefor), boosters, firing components therefor, primers, and other detonating devices for the defense articles controlled in this category.

 

 

And here's a direct reply from the horses mouth so to speak,

 

People planning a visit to the United States often ask us whether they can purchase firearms, or firearms parts/components, or ammunition, or the parts/components of ammunition, during their visit, and carry those home with them. Here’s how US law works.

In order to export any of these things -- including projectiles for ammunition reloading -- it is necessary to have an approved export permit, or “license”, from our Directorate. The only ones who can apply for such a license are those who fall into one of these three categories:

· US citizens,
· Permanent residents of the US, or
· US companies that are registered with our Directorate as exporters.

If someone doesn’t fit into one of those categories, then the only way to obtain these items would be to do one of the following:

(1) Buy them from a US company that is registered with us as an exporter, for that US company to ship to you at your home address. The US company would then apply to our Directorate for the necessary export license, and if it is approved, they would then send the items to your home address. Or:

(2) Buy them from a local company in the UK that has a business relationship with a US company registered with us as an exporter, and which sells things to the UK company, with our authorization, for commercial re-sale in the UK.

But you cannot buy ammunition or ammunition parts/components in the US and carry it home with you.

John Hall
PM Response Team

 

And an answer from

Edited September 15, 2018 by phaedra1106

[Fuddster]

why not stick it in an envelope and post it back.

avoids any probelmatic sensors detecting gun shot residue.

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[mick miller]

That's what I'm going to do, if it gets pulled big deal, if not it's all good and no problems at the airport. 

[Fatcatsplat]

I just came back from a week's elk hunting and wanted to bring the winning shell case back with me, but was warned not to by my guides.

[Lloyd90]

On 14/09/2018 at 19:30, Rst1990 said:

Wasn’t gonna comment but.... why on earth would you throw them in the river? I know it’s not the cleanest but don’t add to it.

Also thought that was a bit odd! If there’s ever a shooting at Parliament they might even find one and he’ll be the assassin for he conspiracy 🤣🤣

[Lloyd90]

On 14/09/2018 at 19:30, Rst1990 said:

Wasn’t gonna comment but.... why on earth would you throw them in the river? I know it’s not the cleanest but don’t add to it.

Also thought that was a bit odd! If there’s ever a shooting at Parliament they might even find one and he’ll be the assassin for he conspiracy 🤣🤣

[mick miller]

Posted these in the end and they've arrived in the UK. I think bringing clean cases or bullets home would be fine as there is no smell on them, I was only worried about the smell of propellant being picked up, the cases opened and a following **** storm with US border staff. 

For anyone wishing to do something similar posting seems the way forward.