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It was announced at aprox 5.30pm UK time that the  judge has been cleared by the FBI with no case to answer. The American Left,,just like the Remoaners just cannot accept democratically losing because the only right answer is their answer. It didn't make the BBC 10.00 news headlines !

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So on the basis of one report from an ex-boyfriend, whose name was redacted from the FBI report, Dr Ford is a proven liar and a fraudster, but despite numerous accusations from a variety of alleged victims who have come forward into the public eye, Brett Kavanaugh is as innocent as a newborn lamb?

And, surprise surprise, the FBI report that they had less than a week to compile, within parameters set by the White House, came out inconclusive.

Regardless of BK's innocence or guilt, as a member of the highest court in the US, with huge influence over policy direction and process, he needs to be spotless, and needs to be seen to be spotless. If there is a question mark over his suitability, and this affair has raised that question, he should not be appointed before being exonerated following due process.

The half-(donkeyed!), rushed and hobbled investigation was not sufficient to either allay doubts or disqualify him.

Ad hominem attacks on witnesses are also not part of due process. Or maybe they are in the US today?

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1 hour ago, CaptainBeaky said:

he needs to be spotless, and needs to be seen to be spotless.

He WAS spotless, he has had multiple FBI checks, his accuser)s) popped out 2 weeks before he was due to be confirmed, after waiting 35 years to (sort of ) remember what happened (or didnt)

 

1 hour ago, CaptainBeaky said:

Ad hominem attacks on witnesses are also not part of due process.

Is the whole fiasco not an ad hominem attack on BK ?
The idea was to cast such doubt on his character , he would be considered unsuitable for the position, thus the democrats would have scored a small victory, put 'Trumps man' out of the running ect , it was never going to trial ! It wouldnt have stood a chance with what evidence they had.

There is some talk of a behind the scenes deal being done.

 https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/profile/72871-rewulf/

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1 hour ago, CaptainBeaky said:

The half-(donkeyed!), rushed and hobbled investigation was not sufficient to either allay doubts or disqualify him.

Ad hominem attacks on witnesses are also not part of due process. Or maybe they are in the US today?

I tend to agree but I think it was the other accuser that sank Dr Ford's accusation, especially as Dr Ford's testimony appeared to be  rather hesitant and also seemed somewhat coached. BK didn't strike me a as anything other than someone deeply affronted by a shaky accuser impugning his otherwise good name. Nevertheless it was completely unnecessary for Trump to deliver his obnoxious comments even if it was a last minute desperate ploy by the Democrats to sink BK.

This 2nd woman claims she was attacked by a group men at a party and sexually assaulted "in every possible way". She thinks BK may have been at the party but wasn't too sure exactly where or when it happened and also wasn't able to confirm BK as one of her attackers.

What other conclusion could the FBI come to?

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3 hours ago, CaptainBeaky said:

Regardless of BK's innocence or guilt, as a member of the highest court in the US, with huge influence over policy direction and process, he needs to be spotless, and needs to be seen to be spotless. If there is a question mark over his suitability, and this affair has raised that question, he should not be appointed before being exonerated following due process.

 

Unfortunately that will be impossible, there's no way anyone can be proven to be squeaky clean, even if you have been and at some point in your teenage years you chatted someone up with the political correctness of today if you so much as touched them whilst talking to them then you've overstepped the mark, common sense seems to have been removed from society.

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Innocent or guilty, his behaviour during "that" speech was not what is required or expected of a Supreme Court Judge. He's supposed to be able to conduct himself in the appropriate manner at all times. As job interviews go he blew it right there.

His ABA rating has also apparently been downgraded again.

He's about as good an example of a Supreme Court Judge as Trumpty Dumpty is Presidential.

The 'Murkins need to get rid of the Electoral College and put minimum standards in for those seeking election to state and above positions.

For a country that's so litigious you would think they'd have sorted it by now.

 

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Don't understand what all the fuss is about, why would or should it matter if he raped a young girl in his younger days, it's not like he's being asked to act as the Supreme Judge of a normal country like here, Europe or in deepest Africa. 

Their elected president, the most powerful man and the leader of the free 😂 world is literally on record going on about grabbing small kittens and kissing women because he knows he will get away with it as he's famous, he has cheated on each successive wife (as you do), he has the marital morality of a tsetse fly, he's on record as saying he fancies his own daughter, he has dozens of sexual assault cases pending against him, he let himself into underage girls dressing rooms for a looksee................the proposed judge is an absolutely perfect fit; in a Marist poll 48% of evangelical Christians had voted they would support this nominee EVEN if the allegations were true, case closed. 

 

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Like so many of these accusations, who ever knows what the truth is? This is not an allegation of rape though, its an allegation of touching a girl inside her clothes when he was 18. Not a good thing if its true but the timing and the way it has been exploited raises doubts. She has never complained to police apparently but instead went to a newspaper. Hmmm!

Well all I can say is its probably just as well I am never likely to be put forward as a supreme court judge .

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So now there are thousands of semi hysterical protesters with the usual placards, who appear to have made up their minds that Kavanaugh is some kind of sex monster.

Really? Virtually every woman I've ever known has had to deal with lechers and gropers. I don't condone it in any way but it's not exactly life threatening is it?

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1 minute ago, Westward said:

So now there are thousands of semi hysterical protesters with the usual placards, who appear to have made up their minds that Kavanaugh is some kind of sex monster.

Really? Virtually every woman I've ever known has had to deal with lechers and gropers. I don't condone it in any way but it's not exactly life threatening is it?

Depends if youre a democrat of course, they get a bit carried away when their fragile grasp of reality is threatened.

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Didn’t the accusers own friends from the party give statements that Kavanaugh wasn’t even present at the party that she accused him, and they all said they didn’t know what she was on about?! 

 

Very scary that someone can come forward with a totally non-provable story like this and potentially change political history. Espionage...

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I think it's hilarious! It's the stuff of playgrounds, carried out by people who are supposed to have some of the highest moral characteristics possible; people to aspire to! 😂

On a world wide stage! It's brilliant! Politics truly is a dirty game; they have the morals of an alley cat! Some of the most corrupt, unscrupulous, lying, untrustworthy people you could possibly meet, and they have been voted into power at the very pinnacle of power the world over! And we, as a race, let it happen! You really couldn't make it up!😃

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On 06/10/2018 at 07:13, Hamster said:

Don't understand what all the fuss is about, why would or should it matter if he raped a young girl in his younger days, it's not like he's being asked to act as the Supreme Judge of a normal country like here, Europe or in deepest Africa. 

Their elected president, the most powerful man and the leader of the free 😂 world is literally on record going on about grabbing small kittens and kissing women because he knows he will get away with it as he's famous, he has cheated on each successive wife (as you do), he has the marital morality of a tsetse fly, he's on record as saying he fancies his own daughter, he has dozens of sexual assault cases pending against him, he let himself into underage girls dressing rooms for a looksee................the proposed judge is an absolutely perfect fit; in a Marist poll 48% of evangelical Christians had voted they would support this nominee EVEN if the allegations were true, case closed. 

 

Pity you didn,t mention Bill Clinton, and his sexual proclivities....or is that because he is a Democrat, and therefore believable? Or  going back further, Ted Kennedy, and his penchant for drowning  his young female passenger? Or Ted,s older brother, and President, John F Kennedy, who was renowned for his sexpolits?  All Democrats.......... the American Left!

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1 hour ago, pinfireman said:

Pity you didn,t mention Bill Clinton, and his sexual proclivities....or is that because he is a Democrat, and therefore believable? Or  going back further, Ted Kennedy, and his penchant for drowning  his young female passenger? Or Ted,s older brother, and President, John F Kennedy, who was renowned for his sexpolits?  All Democrats.......... the American Left!

Hypocrisy seems to be a common factor with the left, especially champagne socialists like the Kennedys who built huge wealth on the proceeds of working with organised crime (Thanks Dad!), then when the brothers were President and Attorney General respectively, they set out to destroy the very organisation who'd earlier enabled them and all their relatives to live in luxury.

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1 hour ago, pinfireman said:

Pity you didn,t mention Bill Clinton, and his sexual proclivities....or is that because he is a Democrat, and therefore believable? Or  going back further, Ted Kennedy, and his penchant for drowning  his young female passenger? Or Ted,s older brother, and President, John F Kennedy, who was renowned for his sexpolits?  All Democrats.......... the American Left!

Points very well made and gratefully taken. 😊  You are of course absolutely correct, Trump is simply the current sexual pest/president, he follows a long line of sexually dubious former free world leaders. 

 

8 hours ago, Scully said:

I think it's hilarious! It's the stuff of playgrounds, carried out by people who are supposed to have some of the highest moral characteristics possible; people to aspire to! 😂

On a world wide stage! It's brilliant! Politics truly is a dirty game; they have the morals of an alley cat! Some of the most corrupt, unscrupulous, lying, untrustworthy people you could possibly meet, and they have been voted into power at the very pinnacle of power the world over! And we, as a race, let it happen! You really couldn't make it up!😃

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On 05/10/2018 at 09:07, CaptainBeaky said:

So on the basis of one report from an ex-boyfriend, whose name was redacted from the FBI report, Dr Ford is a proven liar and a fraudster, but despite numerous accusations from a variety of alleged victims who have come forward into the public eye, Brett Kavanaugh is as innocent as a newborn lamb?

And, surprise surprise, the FBI report that they had less than a week to compile, within parameters set by the White House, came out inconclusive.

Regardless of BK's innocence or guilt, as a member of the highest court in the US, with huge influence over policy direction and process, he needs to be spotless, and needs to be seen to be spotless. If there is a question mark over his suitability, and this affair has raised that question, he should not be appointed before being exonerated following due process.

The half-(donkeyed!), rushed and hobbled investigation was not sufficient to either allay doubts or disqualify him.

Ad hominem attacks on witnesses are also not part of due process. Or maybe they are in the US today?

Your not Dianne Feinstein are you?

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